Re: Proposed patch for ax_enable_builddir.m4

[Guido Draheim]

Peter Simons schrieb:
> Guido Draheim writes:
> 
>  > Peter Simons writes:
>  >
>  >> Hi Julian,
>  >>
>  >> thank you for taking the time to update the macro. Your patch
>  >> certainly feels reasonable to me, so I applied it to the macro:
>  >>
>  >>   http://autoconf-archive.cryp.to/ax_enable_builddir.html
>  >>
>  >> I also followed your advice and marked AX_ENABLE_BUILDDIR_UNAME
>  >> as obsolete.
>  >>
>  >> Guido, you are the principal author of those macros. I make those
>  >> changes in good faith that they are okay with you.
>  >>
>  >> Thank you for supporting free software to both of you.
>  >>
>  >> Best regards,
>  >> Peter
>  >
>  > Peter, on such occasions it is good idea to put the name of
>  > the new maintainer in front of the authors list - the _UNAME
>  > macro is actually the new one while I do consider the old one
>  > as obsolete. Obviously, the longer name could inspire the idea
>  > that it came later in development and it is newer therefore.
>  > As the old macro is used quite heavily in some projects, I did
>  > not want to occupy its name for something else.
> 
> Well, Guido, what can I say?
> 
> You have received Julian's patch. Julian has put quite a bit of
> effort into describing his rationale. As usual, you just don't
> respond. After a few days, I decide to commit the patch because
> it looks absolutely reasonable to me and I have no indication
> that you think otherwise. As usual, _after_ the commit has been
> made, you suddenly respond with a massive, long-winded essay that
> gives me headaches when I try to decipher it. Not that there is
> much to decipher, because the message is loud and clear: "Sorry,
> but that's completely wrong." And naturally, you also see the
> need to drag a private e-mail conversation to a public mailing
> list for no apparent reason other than an audience.
> 
> I really love it when I have to deal with you.
> 
> I don't feel qualified to judge the technical details of the
> change and I trust that you, Julian, and all other interested
> parties find some sort of consensus what the AX_ENABLE_BUILDDIR
> macro should look like. In order to provide context for everyone,
> here are the commits we're talking about:
> 
>   http://tinyurl.com/ys75r2
>   http://tinyurl.com/2yuh5f
> 
> To address your last comment. The order of the authors in the
> macro file is more or less random; it's typically simply the
> order in which people contributed to the macro. The person who
> has been listed first is not necessarily the one who contributed
> the most or the most frequently. In other words: there is no such
> thing as the "first" author. Regardless of the author
> attribution, the maintainer of the macro am I because I maintain
> the Archive.
> 
> The AX_ENABLE_BUILDDIR_UNAME macro has been obsoleted because it
> duplicates functionality from AC_CANONICAL_BUILD. To me, it is
> not clear what this macro is supposed to do and why it is better
> than AX_ENABLE_BUILDDIR. Can you please elaborate on that
> subject?
> 
> Best regards,
> Peter
> 

(a) I do simply have NOT MUCH TIME in my life to write up longer
    explanations, you know, it was sunday and I thought to clean
    up my overflowing inbox a bit. That's all, the rest is your
    interpretation.
(b) the message about autor pickung and obsoletion was directed
    at you alone, as perhaps your mileage may vary. Nice to see
    it pop up in public to wash some dirty linen of your own
    cunning mind.
(c) The reasons for using the _UNAME macro in my own sources
    have been described in quite a length. If that is not
    intelligible to you then I do feel very sorry.

Have a nice day, Guido