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Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal
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Stephen Wilson |
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Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal |
Date: |
29 Jun 2007 20:13:40 -0400 |
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C Y <address@hidden> writes:
> --- Stephen Wilson <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> > No one, to my knowledge, is rewriting noweb or some equivalent in
> > Lisp.
>
> He's referring to cl-web, I believe.
Duh, of course. Sorry Cliff! Temporary blackout, I belive.
> If I understand correctly from previous posts, in this context "ghetto"
> is being used to describe a large body of tools that are divorced from
> mainstream directions being taken by the open source community.
> Centering on Lisp already triggers some of those complaints, and Bill's
> concern (if I understand correctly) is that if we home-grow too much we
> will end up not being able to grow with the open source world and be
> left behind with a bunch of non-standard tools no one wants to take the
> time to understand.
Ok. I recall similar notions. New tools that solve new problems are
always non-standard by definition. I just never connected `ghetto'
with that perspective.
> Obviously I disagree that this is what will happen - Lisp I don't
> regard as a ghetto and ASDF is the standard solution within the Lisp
> world. It seems to be well designed and flexible. And the goal is to
> develop tools such that given a working Lisp environment users and
> developers will be able to focus on the Algebra without worrying about
> the underlying tools. If they MUST work with them, I would like them
> to be literate all the way down - no dark corners to get into trouble
> with. But that's again just me.
Your certainly not alone :)
Cheers,
Steve
- Re: [Axiom-developer] A modest proposal, (continued)
- Re: [Axiom-developer] A modest proposal, William Sit, 2007/06/28
- [Axiom-developer] A modest proposal, daly, 2007/06/28
- [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal, William Sit, 2007/06/28
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal, Ralf Hemmecke, 2007/06/29
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal, Bill Page, 2007/06/29
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal, Stephen Wilson, 2007/06/29
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal, C Y, 2007/06/29
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal, Bill Page, 2007/06/29
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal, Stephen Wilson, 2007/06/29
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal, C Y, 2007/06/29
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal,
Stephen Wilson <=
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal, Bill Page, 2007/06/30
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal, Stephen Wilson, 2007/06/30
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal, Ralf Hemmecke, 2007/06/30
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal, Stephen Wilson, 2007/06/30
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal, Ralf Hemmecke, 2007/06/30
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal, Stephen Wilson, 2007/06/30
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal, C Y, 2007/06/30
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal, C Y, 2007/06/29
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal, Ralf Hemmecke, 2007/06/29
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal, Stephen Wilson, 2007/06/29