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Re: Problem (and fix) with "leim/quail/greek.el"


From: Nick Patavalis
Subject: Re: Problem (and fix) with "leim/quail/greek.el"
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:39:19 +0200
User-agent: Mutt/1.2.5i

Thanks for your very swift and helpfull response. Some comments 
follow.

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 08:01:25PM +0900, Kenichi Handa wrote:
> Thank you for the report.  But, changing the inputting rule
> of an existing input method is not good.
> 
> For latin-X characters, Emacs has both latin-X-postfix and
> latin-X-prefix.  The formar style is the same as the current
> "greek" input method, and the latter style is what you want.
> 
> So, I think it is best to make an input method of your style
> by the name "greek-prefix".

It seems that this is the best solution, indeed.

> And, if "greek-prefix" is what Greek users want by default,
> perhaps we must change the default input method of "Greek"
> language environment to it.

This *definitely* what Greek users want! All "greek" typewriters,
computers, wordprocessors, operating systems... everything, uses the
convention I described (i.e. "greek-prefix"). 

Another minor point is that, in order to be consistent to the way
greek typewriters behave, then in Greek mode, the 'q' key should
produce the ';' character and the 'shift' + 'q' (i.e. capital Q) key,
should produce the ':' character. The '<' and '>' keys should not be
modified; even in greek mode they must inster the normal characters
(i.e. '<' and '>'), as in latin mode.

> Unfortunately, for Greek, we have already used "greek", not
> "greek-postfix".  Please excuse this inconsistent naming.

So what I propose is to leave the "greek" input method as is, and
define two new ones: "greek-postfix" which is the same as "greek",
modulo the 'q','Q','<', and '>' fixes I mentioned above, and
"greek-prefix" which is what greek users really want. Obviously
greek-prefix must be the default. This way there is no naming
inconsistency anymore.

Thanks again
Nick Patavalis

P.S. Please tell me if you'd rather want me to make these changes and
     send a patch, or if you can make them yourself.

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