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make-frame should follow platform behaviour on Windows


From: Moore, Paul
Subject: make-frame should follow platform behaviour on Windows
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:38:55 -0000

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In GNU Emacs 21.2.1 (i386-msvc-nt5.0.2195)
 of 2002-03-19 on buffy
configured using `configure --with-msvc (12.00)'
Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: ENG
  locale-coding-system: iso-latin-1
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:

On Windows, the standard behaviour when an application creates a new
window (frame) without specifying an explicit position or size is to
place the new frame slightly offset from the current frame.

C-x 5 2 or the make-frame command in Emacs does not follow this
behaviour. The new frame is always a fixed size, at the top left of
the screen. (This is with default-frame-alist set to
((tool-bar-lines . 0) (menu-bar-lines . 1)) - the default value).

The Emacs behaviour is particularly disconcerting if C-x 5 2 is
executed in a frame which is in the default position, as the new frame
appears in exactly the same position, and so it appears as if no new
frame has been created...

I believe that this behaviour is Windows-specific - on Unix window
managers, the default frame positioning is a function of the window
manager and so is user-configurable.

Paul Moore

Recent input:
<help-echo> C-h a b u g <return> <mouse-1> C-x 1 <menu-bar> 
<help-menu> <report-emacs-bug>

Recent messages:
(C:\Applications\Emacs\bin\emacs.exe)
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