bug#2760: marked as done (CUA-like stuff spuriously enables transient-mark-mode.)

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enables transient-mark-mode.)
has caused the Emacs bug report #2760,
regarding CUA-like stuff spuriously enables transient-mark-mode.
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> CUA-like stuff spuriously enables transient-mark-mode.
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> Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:37:03 +0000
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> Hi, Richard, Eli and Emacs!
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> Start the CVS head "emacs -Q", and evaluate this:
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>     (global-set-key [ &\C-\M-\S-m ] 'forward-char)
>     (transient-mark-mode -1)
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> In some buffer, invoke 'forward-char by the above binding.  This enables
> transient-mark-mode as a side effect.  This shouldn't happen.  It happens
> both in a Linux Virtual terminal (with the requisite enhancements to the
> keyboard handling) and in X-Windows.
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> ANALYSIS:
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> The "^" in the interactive string causes `handle-shift-selection' to be
> invoked by the command loop.  The function and friends abuse the user
> option variable `transient-mark-mode' by additionally storing some sort
> of state in it.  h-s-s writes the value '(only) into the variable
> transient-mark-mode, thus enabling the mode.  A sensible fix would surely
> involve leaving `transient-mark-mode' severely alone (only the user
> should set this) and creating another variable (or several) to hold the
> state currently mashed into t-m-m.
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> COMMENT:
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> It is now no longer true that "But Emacs does not assign meanings to keys
> directly" (Emacs manual, page "Commands") - Emacs directly assigns a
> meaning to the shift key.  This is surely a Bad Thing.
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> Why, why, why is this thing implemented by hard-coding in the command
> loop, where it interferes with users' ability to chose key bindings?
> Surely this feature with the shift key should have been implemented by
> defining defuns such as `forward-char-with-marking', and putting these
> commands in some suitable keymap?  OK, it's more work, but not _that_
> much more.
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> It's practically 100% certain that somebody, somewhere, will want to use
> the hyper- or alt- keys instead of <shift> to get this visible region
> feature, or possibly might want to use separate bindings entirely.
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> It's near 100% certain that somebody, somewhere, perhaps with a name like
> Xah Lee, will want to use C-f as "find" (i.e. bind it to
> `isearch-forward') and use C-S-f for `forward-char'.
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> -- 
> Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
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> Re: bug#2760: Acknowledgement (CUA-like stuff spuriously enables	transient-mark-mode.)
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> Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:49:37 +0000
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> This wasn't a bug.
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> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:45:04PM +0000, Emacs bug Tracking System wrote:
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> > Thank you for filing a new bug report with Emacs.
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