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bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when i
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Drew Adams |
Subject: |
bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when itcalls `list-processes' |
Date: |
Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:12:02 -0700 |
> >> >> Usually, each frame must have a minibuffer window. How
> >> >> else should `read-minibuffer' work?
> >> >
> >> > It can read from the minibuffer in a standalone minibuffer frame?
> >>
> >> Is this a question or an answer?
> >
> > An answer, followed by "Is that not correct?", since I'm
> > not sure we're talking about the same thing. I would expect that
> > it is obvious to you too that Emacs can read from a minibuffer in a
> > standalone frame. And it's not clear to me why
> > that possibility is not an answer to your question.
>
> But then you didn't answer my initial question. I didn't ask about
> standalone frames only, I asked about "each" frame.
I was saying only that using a standalone minibuffer frame is a case where it is
not true that each frame has a minibuffer. And yet it is a case works. That's
all I was pointing out.
Whether a frame with nil `minibuffer' parameter might actually have a minibuffer
_window_ is not something I know about, as I said. I'm sure I'm not saying
anything here that you are not aware of, so if this part is only a word game for
you then let's move on, please.
> >> > That's what I was guessing, that a frame's `minibuffer'
> >> > parameter might be non-nil but it somehow has a minibuffer
> >> > _window_. Seems odd, but I guess these things are at two
> >> > different levels. I am used to the Lisp & frame level - I
> >> > know almost nothing about the C & window level.
> >>
> >> Emacs must be able to work internally even if you make
> >> all your frames minibuffer-less.
> >
> > I never claimed otherwise. But I don't see the relation
> > here. And I do not make all my frames minibuffer-less.
> > So I guess I'm not following you very well.
>
> When you exit emacs deleting its last frame, there might be an internal
> state where only a minibuffer less frame remains. And that may cause
> a(n unwanted) crash IIUC.
OK. Do you see me saying anything that contradicts that? I do not understand
what the point is here - what it is that we are discussing. I am not disputing
anything I hear you to be saying.
> >> >> `mouse-leave-buffer-hook' and in a `pre-' or
> >> >> `post-command-hook' check whether that something got executed.
> >> >> Then you can be sure that somewhere in between a
> >> >> `handle-switch-frame' interfered.
> >> >
> >> > Sorry, I don't follow you (and I haven't found where you
> >> > suggested something similar earlier). If you can be more
> >> > specific I'll be glad to try whatever you ask.
> >>
> >> When you want to check of `handle-switch-frame' executions you cannot
> >> trace otherwise and you do not run emacs in the debugger, the most
> >> simple way to trace these is to put some function on
> >> `mouse-leave-buffer-hook', and inspect the output of that
> >> function later on.
> >
> > OK, but I still do not know what you would like me to
> > do/test. Can you give me a recipe to test?
>
> No. All I did was to reply to an issue you raised earlier - that of
> `handle-switch-frame' possibly interfering with "normal" execution of
> commands. And I said that IMHO the most simple way to notice whether
> `handle-switch-frame' got executed in between is to put a function on
> `mouse-leave-buffer-hook'.
I see.
But as I said earlier, I already determined that `h-s-f' was in fact the current
(i.e., last) command when `1on1-fit-minibuffer-frame' kicked in from
`post-command-hook'.
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when itcalls `list-processes', (continued)
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when itcalls `list-processes', Drew Adams, 2012/07/17
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when itcalls `list-processes', martin rudalics, 2012/07/18
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when itcalls `list-processes', Drew Adams, 2012/07/18
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when itcalls `list-processes', martin rudalics, 2012/07/19
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when itcalls `list-processes', Drew Adams, 2012/07/19
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when itcalls `list-processes', martin rudalics, 2012/07/21
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when itcalls `list-processes', Drew Adams, 2012/07/21
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when itcalls `list-processes', martin rudalics, 2012/07/22
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when itcalls `list-processes', Drew Adams, 2012/07/22
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when itcalls `list-processes', martin rudalics, 2012/07/23
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when itcalls `list-processes',
Drew Adams <=
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when it calls `list-processes', martin rudalics, 2012/07/17
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when it calls `list-processes', Drew Adams, 2012/07/17
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when it calls `list-processes', martin rudalics, 2012/07/18
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when it calls `list-processes', Drew Adams, 2012/07/18
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when it calls `list-processes', martin rudalics, 2012/07/19
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when it calls `list-processes', Drew Adams, 2012/07/19
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when it calls `list-processes', martin rudalics, 2012/07/21
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when it calls `list-processes', Drew Adams, 2012/07/21
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when it calls `list-processes', Drew Adams, 2012/07/18
- bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when it calls `list-processes', martin rudalics, 2012/07/19