bug#14841: Frames created invisible have their visibility parameter set to t

[martin rudalics]

>> For some reason, using -mm gives me a frame _with_ outer borders while
>> adding (fullscreen . maximized) to `initial-frame-alist' gets me a frame
>> _without_ outer borders.  What do you get?
>
> I get the same effect with both, which is a frame _with_ outer
> borders.  But this is XP, and I think I saw a frame without borders on
> Windows 7.  Will check.

I'm on XP and I've never seen another application that shows the sizing
borders for a maximized window.  Do you?

>> On the Web you can find a quite remarkable number of proposals how to
>> get an initially maximized frame (not only on Windows, IIUC).
>
> Maximized _and_ hidden?  Any pointers?

Just maximized.

martin