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bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width


From: Drew Adams
Subject: bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 14:57:38 -0800 (PST)

> >   http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=11832
> 
> Note that this was a request from Drew who didn't even understand
> that the "$" signs used up just as much space as the fringe would.

Oooooh.  "Drew didn't even understand THAT"?!  You never miss an
opportunity, do you?  Try to see if you can convince people by
throwing in an ad hominem aspersion or two...

> IOW a typical "I don't understand what I say, but I want my old
> teddy bear back".

I guess we can see whose behavior is typical here.  A typical
bleating of "This doesn't count because it was reported by Drew!"

> So, it doesn't seem to be a request of terribly high importance.

Because it is from Drew.  Of course.  That follows.

Maybe some will read that bug thread for themselves and decide.
Maybe not.

I will repeat only this:

  Let me be clear BTW about my motivation: I use Emacs with fringes
  turned off.  And I use it with line truncation turned off (although
  it gets turned on automatically in contexts such as the debugger).

  I am not asking for a fix to this bug for myself but for Emacs.

  I simply recognize that something was lost for users in moving to
  Emacs 21.  It seems wrong that users who choose not to show fringe
  have no way of knowing which lines are truncated.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

So much for this all being about ignorant, crybaby Drew just wanting
to have his teddy bear back.  Drew has little use for this teddy,
and he made that clear from the outset.

"No way of knowing which lines are truncated."  Did Drew know what
he was talking about there, or not?  You have only to compare Emacs
22 and Emacs 24 with fringe turned off and `truncate-lines' turned on.

That was the bug that Drew reported.  And the bug that Eli fixed.
The report simply asked to let users who choose to not show fringe be
able to tell which lines are truncated.  They had that ability before
the bug (regression).  And they had it again after Eli fixed it.

If you want to take that teddy bear away from non-Drew users then
no one will stop you.





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