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bug#19989: 25.0.50; Build instructions on Windows
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Ilya Zakharevich |
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bug#19989: 25.0.50; Build instructions on Windows |
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Thu, 5 Mar 2015 13:18:21 -0800 |
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Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) |
On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 05:42:59AM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > > > > • mingw shell sets path to (essentially) FOO/msys/1.0/mingw/bin
> > > > > (here FOO
> > > > > is the install path), but there is no directory
> > > > > FOO/msys/1.0/mingw
> > > > > what is is
> > > > > FOO/bin
> > > > > So I needed to make a symbolic link (Windows style required) by
> > > > > running
> > > > > mklink /j mingw FOO
> > > > > in FOO/msys/1.0
> >
> > > > FWIW, the 2nd issue sounds to me like an installation mistake of some
> > > > kind (did you install MinGW inside the MSYS tree, by chance?).
> >
> > How would I know?
>
> You could look at the directory hierarchy that got created.
*This* I did — and I reported the result in my initial message (quoted
below). This does not answer your question.
> > I just ran mingw-get (as described), and set
> > install directory ( = FOO) once.
>
> Did you select the same install directory for MinGW and for MSYS?
AFAIR, there was no “install directory ‘for”’. Only “install directory”.
> > The result:
> > FOO/bin - contains gcc executables etc
> > FOO/msys/1.0/ - contains msys
> > FOO/msys/1.0/bin - contains msys executables
> > > > But
> > > > I'm not an expert; all I know is that on my system, the MSYS Bash
> > > > window has PATH set to whatever my system-wide PATH is, with these
> > > > directories prepended:
> > > >
> > > > .:/usr/local/bin:/mingw/bin:/bin:
> > > >
> > > > IOW, no msys/1.0/mingw/ anywhere in sight.
> >
> > ??? Of course it IS in sight:
> >
> > /bin IS native FOO/msys/1.0/bin
> > /mingw/bin IS native FOO/msys/1.0/mingw/bin
>
> But then there's no problem, because missing directories on PATH do no
> harm.
Of course they do. configure did not work (since the gcc found on
path was not MINGW one).
> The binaries are in /bin, and it is on PATH, so there should be
> no problem; there isn't one in my installation.
Are you joking?! What do you think is a reason for filing bug
reports? I followed instructions, AND GOT PROBLEMS!
> > > Btw, there's nothing magic in the PATH value: it is set in
> > > /etc/profile (probably FOO/msys/etc/profile in your case), and you can
> > > edit it to your heart's content.
> >
> > Only if one KNOWS what all these slashes-etc MEAN.
>
> /etc/profile is a standard place in many Posix shells.
How would it help? How would the user find it on their disk?
> > As you see, even
> > *you* got lost what denotes which native directory. If what the users
> > know is what is in nt/INSTALL, they have no way to deduce this info.
>
> I wasn't talking about some abstract user, I was trying to help you to
> get your installation in good shape.
Thanks! But did I ask for that? This is a bug report, not a cry for
help. Emacs builds fine now — but I needed 3 corrections to what is
written in nt/INSTALL to achieve this.
> > BTW: you reminded me: there is another bug in Emacs build — this one
> > purely in Emacs. My default PATH accesses a complete cygwin
> > installation
> How does Cygwin enter this equation? Do you have both Cygwin and
> MinGW/MSYS installed?
I have tens of environment installed. cygwin is on PATH.
> > • Emacs won’t build unless I unset PATH before running the msys shell.
> >
> > I expect that the detection of presence of dependencies is not
> > “specific enough”:
> >
> > • it can see “something” present on PATH, and
> > • it does not check that “this” won’t actually build with mingw
> > being first on PATH.
>
> If you mix incompatible stuff in the same shell session, you get what
> you deserve.
Sigh… Again — all I did was following instructions in nt/INSTALL.
> My advice is to have MSYS in separate tree from MinGW,
Is this advice in nt/INSTALL? And how to do it from mingw-get?
> and only let MSYS shell see MinGW executables _after_ its own. MinGW,
> OTOH, should not have the MSYS's /bin directory on its PATH.
Same questions.
> As for Cygwin, it should be in yet another segregated tree,
It is.
> and never on the same PATH as either MSYS or MinGW.
It was not in *MY* $PATH. It was in the $PATH created by /etc/profile
which was created following instructions in nt/INSTALL.
> It is next to impossible to have
> the Posix configure scripts distinguish between foo.exe or foo.h that
> are for Cygwin and their namesakes for MinGW.
For foo.exe — one does not care. For foo.h — one compiles and runs a
simple program.
> Like I said: you need to get your MinGW/MSYS installation in good
> shape, and then things will work seamlessly. This isn't an Emacs
> issue, per se.
Again: this is an issue with nt/INSTALL. Who distributes it, the god
almoighty?
Thanks again,
Ilya
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