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bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings |
Date: |
Fri, 24 Apr 2015 17:40:18 +0300 |
> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 07:11:24 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, 20385@debbugs.gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu
>
> > > > Those who follow Markus Kuhn's advice, read here:
> > > > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/quotes.html
> > >
> > > ...where the *only* argument given is, again, "it looked rather
> > > ugly". That is the only "why do they want that" that we have
> > > heard, so far.
> >
> > You are missing the point: this paper wants those "rather ugly"
> > characters to disappear from text content, and not everybody out
> > there uses Emacs for editing and reading that.
>
> No, I didn't miss the fact that the paper is not about Emacs etc.
> The only _reason given_ in that paper for dropping use of `...'
> quoting (anywhere, everywhere) is what I quoted: "it looked rather
> ugly".
What other reasons can there be for replacing one character with
another?
> > He doesn't talk about Emacs at all.
>
> You are repeating my point. He is not talking about Emacs or
> anything similar to Emacs. Except that he seems to be talking
> generally: As you say, "the old quoting characters" should
> "never be used" anywhere "for quoting purposes".
>
> That includes Emacs. But he does not speak to the uses of
> `...' in a context like Emacs. He wants all contexts to change,
> but he makes no argument that takes a context like Emacs into
> account.
He doesn't care. Read his other articles, and you will see.
> > He's talking about the world at large. People who want to
> > follow him want the old quoting characters to never be used
> > at all for quoting purposes.
>
> Maybe so. But the argument given is far too weak to apply to
> Emacs. That "rather ugly" reason might be sufficient for some
> people for some contexts. It is not a strong argument for a
> context like Emacs.
For you, but you are biased.
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, (continued)
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Drew Adams, 2015/04/22
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Paul Eggert, 2015/04/23
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Drew Adams, 2015/04/23
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Drew Adams, 2015/04/23
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Paul Eggert, 2015/04/23
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Dmitry Gutov, 2015/04/23
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/04/23
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Drew Adams, 2015/04/23
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/04/24
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Drew Adams, 2015/04/24
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings,
Eli Zaretskii <=
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Dmitry Gutov, 2015/04/23
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/04/24
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Artur Malabarba, 2015/04/24
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Nicolas Petton, 2015/04/21
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Stefan Monnier, 2015/04/21
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Paul Eggert, 2015/04/21
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Paul Eggert, 2015/04/22
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/04/23
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Ivan Shmakov, 2015/04/21
- bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/04/21