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bug#20499: [PROPOSED PATCH] C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, et
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Richard Stallman |
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bug#20499: [PROPOSED PATCH] C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc. |
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Sat, 09 May 2015 10:17:15 -0400 |
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> > That is a lot less input than the other method, and is sort of usable,
> > but inconvenient. I tried it in that very case.
> >
> > It includes Coptic characters as well as Greek; I don't know why.
> I don't know either. If I type TAB after just "greek", then I see no
> Coptic characters in completion candidates. What did you type before
> asking for completion?
I typed C-x 8 RET greek TAB TAB.
All the NAMES that appear start with "Greek", but when I inserted
GREEK CAPITAL LETTER HORI and examined it with C-u C-x =,
it said
name: COPTIC CAPITAL LETTER HORI
old-name: GREEK CAPITAL LETTER HORI
I didn't notice the old-name field the previous time. I suppose that
explains why it was included in that completion table. Anyway that
completion list is over 440 lines long, and not very useful.
> > It also includes many punctuation characters, and letters with
> > diacritics, that are in a different part of Unicode, and are not
> > normal Greek letters.
> This is simple Emacs completion at work: it brings you every character
> whose name begins with "GREEK".
Do you think I don't know that?
_Why_ it does what it does is not the issue. The only pertinent point
is that that it isn't a convenient way to do what I want to do.
> As for letters with diacriticals, how would Emacs know that you don't
> need those?
That question is spurious. Remember, I don't want to enter a
character name at all. I want to see all the glyphs.
Someone else suggested that C-x 8 RET might be a convenient alternate
method. I am explaining why it isn't.
If I had the feature I want, I would see the segment including the
usual Greek letters, and the far more numerous diacriticalized ones
would not be there (because they come later in Unicode).
> If you only want letters, you can give a more accurate spec to
> completion: "C-x 8 RET greek*letter <TAB> <TAB>". (The asterisk is a
> wildcard character.) That still produces quite a long list,
Indeed, it is still inconvenient.
> I hope you now agree that the use case of searching for a character
> with only some vague idea about its appearance and/or name needs some
> pretty sophisticated (and overlapping) capabilities for allowing the
> user to specify what she knows, before showing the possible
> candidates.
We seem to be totally miscommunicating. I DON'T WANT to search for
them by name. I never asked for that.
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- bug#20499: C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., (continued)
- bug#20499: C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Eli Zaretskii, 2015/05/06
- bug#20499: C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Drew Adams, 2015/05/08
- bug#20499: C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Eli Zaretskii, 2015/05/09
- bug#20499: [PROPOSED PATCH] C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Richard Stallman, 2015/05/06
- bug#20499: [PROPOSED PATCH] C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Eli Zaretskii, 2015/05/06
- bug#20499: [PROPOSED PATCH] C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Richard Stallman, 2015/05/07
- bug#20499: [PROPOSED PATCH] C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Eli Zaretskii, 2015/05/08
- bug#20499: [PROPOSED PATCH] C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Richard Stallman, 2015/05/08
- bug#20499: [PROPOSED PATCH] C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Richard Stallman, 2015/05/08
- bug#20499: [PROPOSED PATCH] C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Eli Zaretskii, 2015/05/09
- bug#20499: [PROPOSED PATCH] C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc.,
Richard Stallman <=
- bug#20499: [PROPOSED PATCH] C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Eli Zaretskii, 2015/05/09
- bug#20499: [PROPOSED PATCH] C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Drew Adams, 2015/05/08
- bug#20499: [PROPOSED PATCH] C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Eli Zaretskii, 2015/05/09
bug#20499: [PROPOSED PATCH] C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Paul Eggert, 2015/05/04
- bug#20499: [PROPOSED PATCH] C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Paul Eggert, 2015/05/05
- bug#20499: C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Ivan Shmakov, 2015/05/06
- bug#20499: C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Eli Zaretskii, 2015/05/07
- bug#20499: C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Ivan Shmakov, 2015/05/07
- bug#20499: C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Eli Zaretskii, 2015/05/07
bug#20499: [PROPOSED PATCH] C-x 8 shorthands for curved quotes, Euro, etc., Paul Eggert, 2015/05/07