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Re: [Bug-gnubg] GNUbgBugs


From: Joern Thyssen
Subject: Re: [Bug-gnubg] GNUbgBugs
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 17:34:03 +0000
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On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 10:56:22AM +0200, sev_notrump wrote

>  In the attached Zip file "bug020620" y will find some of my work.

It's OK if you write the actual bug report in the email, and just attach
the SGF and text file.

Regarding the bugs:

> A Garbage after loading a prevoius saved and analysed game

Should be fixed as I wrote earlier.

> C Analyselist after pressing "Hint"

> 1  This results allways in 20 moves although the moves limit are set
> to e.g. 5 ( In menu            "Settings" submenu "Move Limit") Verry
> irritating if y like to invoke a 5 ply move analyse      (takes
> hours :(() 

Settings->Analysis->Move limit only indicates how many moves should be
saved in the analysis. 

When generating the list of moves for "hint" or the analysis, gnubg will
do:

(a) generate all moves
(b) evaluate all moves on 0-ply
(c) prune (e.g., pick all moves with equity diff less than 0.16 to best
move, but 8 moves at most)
(d) evaluates the moves from (c) at 1-ply
(e) prune (pick all moves with equity diff less than 0.08 to best move,
but 4 moves at most, and only iff "no 1-ply prune" is not selected)
(f) evaluate moves from (e) on 2-ply
(g) etc etc.

> 2  The resulting list is not ordered

gnubg orders the list as follows

(i) the level of evaluation (e.g., 2-ply is better than 1-ply)
(ii) cubeful equity
(iii) cubeless equity

That is, 

Ply     Cubeful Cubeless
2       +1.0    +0.9
2       +1.0    +0.85
1       +1.2    +0.95

*NOT*

Ply     Cubeful Cubeless
1       +1.2    +0.95
2       +1.0    +0.9
2       +1.0    +0.85

> 3  In DMP- or singlegame's with no cube the resulting equity is still
> based on gammonwins cq        gammonlosses this is not right of
> course. This is also the case if you analyse the whole     game.

Can you provide a specific example? E.g., a position ID and match ID or
a SGF file.

> D  Unsaved settings
>
> 1  Analyses submenu

I found that the Chequer play, Cube action, and dice rolls check box
items were not saved. Others?

> 2  The export submenu

I found that "Show evaluation parameters", "Show rollout parameters",
and "Show detailed probabilities" for both moves and cube were not
saved. Others?

> 3  The evaluation submenu

Can you be more specific?

> 4  The Appearance submenu

The opacity from Board, Border, and Points are not saved, as they are not used.
I'll see if I can remove the opacity property.

> E  Overview of the user interface.
>    Some Menu Items are implemented as a submunu , where they should be
>    implemented as a pointer to a dialog or tabbed dialog. ( in my
>    opnion of course :)) It is verry irratating if you have to perform
>    18 (!!!)  mouse
>clicks to set the analyse menu for example.(especialy if you cant save
>them  :)) ) ( Look at the Appearence menu that's     much better !! )

I agree wrt the analysis submenu. Other menus?

Jørn


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