Re: [Bug-gnubg] SGG import issues

[Ned Cross]

Interesting.  I don't have Snowie, so I've just been assuming I had to do
the legwork on these games myself.  If GNU could "filter" the .sgg file and
correct these little glitches, it would greatly reduce the need for
troubleshooting, manual  editing, and repeat analysis.

Ned


----- Original Message -----
From: "Albert Silver" <address@hidden>
To: "'Ned Cross'" <address@hidden>
Cc: "'gnubg'" <address@hidden>
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 6:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Bug-gnubg] SGG import issues


> Thanks, however I suppose it bears mentioning that Snowie doesn't suffer
> from this problem. Would it be possible to have GNU know how to deal
> with this? This actually occurred in 3 games of the attached session.
>
> Albert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: address@hidden
> [mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of Ned
> Cross
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:02 PM
> To: Albert Silver
> Cc: gnubg
> Subject: Re: [Bug-gnubg] SGG import issues
>
> I've experienced a few quirks as well with .sgg files.  Upon
> investigation,
> I've found the .sgg file itself to be the culprit.
>
> For example: In a recent game GNUbg tells me I should have doubled while
> on
> the bar. I danced (.sgg notation is " 63: 0-0 ") and GNUbg says I danced
> a
> second time, assigning me 2 huge blunders for missed cube action, thus
> ranking my cube skill as "awful!".
>
> Investigating further, I see that the .sgg file actually lists the "63:
> 0-0"
> line twice, while other places in the match a dancing roll is only
> listed
> once.  Removing the duplicate line in the .sgg and re-running the
> analysis
> fixes the problem.
>
> Another (and very strange) example occurred when the .sgg mysteriously
> "lost" most of the moves of the game, showing a Double (Very Bad!)/Pass
> (Very Bad!) on the fourth roll, when the game actually went on for
> another
> 10 rolls or so before a proper racing Double/Pass.  Again this was a bug
> in
> the gamesgrid client saving the .sgg.
>
> Looking at your attached file, I see you have a similar problem, and
> it's
> easy to fix:
>
> Game 7. 6-7
>
>
> 1 43:
> 1 43:
> 1 43: 13/9, 13/10
> 1  11:
> SubtleOne: a sec pls
> 1 11: 6/5(2), 8/7(2)
>
>  your first roll of 43 is listed on 3 lines.  Just cut the first line,
> and
> re-save the .sgg.  Your problem will be fixed.
>
> You see below, that a 'normally recorded' game starts with the first
> roll
> listed only twice. Once to indicate which player on roll (via the
> indentation), and to indicate a dice roll vice a doubling cube play. The
> second to indicate the checker movement.
>
> Game 6. 4-7
>
>
> 1 41:
> 1 41: 13/9, 24/23
> 1  43:
> 1 43: 13/9, 24/21
>
> While I wouldn't say corrupted .sgg's happen frequently, they do happen
> often enough that if GNUbg is acting strange that's the first thing I
> check.
>
> Ned
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Albert Silver" <address@hidden>
> To: "'Oystein Johansen'" <address@hidden>; "'Ian Shaw'"
> <address@hidden>
> Cc: <address@hidden>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 10:46 AM
> Subject: [Bug-gnubg] SGG import issues
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was analyzing a money game session with GNU and was amazed to
> > see it judge myt opponent and I as rank beginners. It's possible, but
> I
> > didn't think we had played quite THAT bad. I then noticed that it did
> > not register the first move in game 7, so that just about everything
> > following it was judged a colossal blunder. I tried importing it twice
> > and had the same result. I'm sending the file to you. If I were you,
> I'd
> > ONLY look at this 7th game. No need to subject yourself to brain
> damage
> > at such an early age. :-)
> >
> > Actually, the following is a worthy anecdote. Guess how my very
> > first match with money on the line started? I rolled 51, and split. I
> > then never made another move and was gammoned. I kid you not. The
> timing
> > of this was so ludicrous, that even I had to smile.
> >
> > Albert
> >
> >
>
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