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[Bug-gnubg] Re: with a Little Help From My Friends


From: Philippe Michel
Subject: [Bug-gnubg] Re: with a Little Help From My Friends
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 18:11:27 +0100 (CET)
User-agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23)

On Mon, 27 Dec 2010, Wilson Amaral Jorge wrote:

I need understand why there is a divergence so great between the numbers showed in the (Analyse)Market Window and Evaluation/Hint. Better explaining: in a particular game -2/-4, cube 2 with the trailer, the Market Window showed Cash Point 50% and Too Good 82.495%.

However, when the trailer was only with 61.4% of GWC chances, he asked a Hint and it was Too Good. From 61.4% to 82.495% is a huge difference, maybe I'm not understanding something.

What may be misleading here is the 61.4% number : it is a cubeless number, the percentage of games you would win *if you never redouble*.

In reality, you will redouble quite often, when the oppenent rolls something that decrease your gammons chances but you're still above the 50% cash point.

For instance, suppose you roll 6-2 and he rolls 3-3. He will anchor up on the 18 or 21 point ; your gammon chances become much smaller but you can still cash and that's what you should do.

In the cubeless calculation that gave the 61.4%, this continuation is counted for something like 55% (your cubeless GWC) but in reality it is worth 100% (your GWC with cube access).

When every continuation is accounted for, it looks like you're indeed too good (according 3 or 4 ply evaluation, 0, 1 and 2 ply say double/pass). But you won't win 61% of the games with 17% gammons like the cubeless numbers suggest, it will be more like 90% games (almost all cashes) and relatively few gammons.

How gnubg estimates cubeful equity/GWC is described here, for instance :
http://www.gnubg.org/win32/gnubg/gnubg.html#Cubeful%20equities





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