Re: grub as bootloader for linux and windows

[mw]

Hello.
I've started this thread into the debian-users list.
Might be enjoying you :))

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Hello List.
Thank you for your suggestions ! Got clear now about grub's numbering.
And the penguin offers me a beer from the mbr, and this moment behind me  
there's the windull2000 device installer happily rattling through the hd....

Looking back, the main problem was that i made things too complicated.
The docu at [ http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Multiboot-with-GRUB.html ]
refers to installing a whole palette of Microsoffers at once,  however, i 
didn't install any other ms-OS yet. Win2000 let me choose it's root-partition 
and did not overwrite the grub-mbr. Hiding partitions was not neccessary, 
even not building a boot-floppy. Which i did by 'grub-install /dev/fd0' with 
no problems, despite the warning in grub's info-page.
In fact, it was not necessary to rely on additional docu at all. The README's 
that are shipped with woody were all i needed. And I missed the important 
fact that there is a Debian 'update-grub' now which installs a proper and 
simple draft for menu.lst and gave some basic hints.
As usual, debian had the solutions already for what i tried to do my own way 
;-)

With my new partition table, Grub did boot win2000 easily on the first try. 
And now that i checked the grub -shell and -editor, i am so delighted !  
Don't want to offend anybody, but i wonder how i was ever fiddling around 
with lilo ( or another distribution ;-))

Hope I can ask you if i come to X and the NIC's....:)

--
Michl

( next building a minimal homenetwork with a Dell Inspiron 5000 )



mw schrieb zu Re: grub as bootloader for linux and windows:
> --- please reply directly, I'm not on the list ---
> ***Sorry:***  my first mail was sent accidently before finished.
>
> I intendet to do some more reading and thinking and fiddling on the whole
> thing,  before bothering you....
>
> Anyway. I guess that I don't clearly understand partioning.
>
> ( A second after I opened the Linux-Partiton-Howto my draft was sent to
> you....)
> With the described partitioning, grub seems not to be able to find the
> grub-boot-files in /boot/grub which stays within  / -Partition on hda7. The
> Linux-Boot-Partition was logical - this should be no problem - but in this
> case was attached to a first FAT32-Partition ( hda5 ).
> May this configuartion is not possible to boot for grub ?
>
> ( grub-numbering  .............  size in MB  ..........  device-numbering )
>
> 0) Hibernation     = Hidden Win95 FAT32 ( LBA ) .... 550 ... hda1 = prim
> 1) BOOT: Win2000 = Hidden FAT16 ........................... 50 ... hda2 =
> prim 2) Exchange   = Win95 FAT32 (LBA) .................... 500 ... hda5 =
> log1
>
> Linux = ext2:
> 4) home ....................................... 500 ... hda6 = log2
> 5) / (inkl. /boot ) ........................  3000 ... hda7 = log3
> 6) var ..........................................  500 ... hda8 = log4
> 7) tmp .......................................... 500  ... hda9 = log5
> 8) swap_linux .............................. 500 ... hda10 = log6
> 9) free  ....................................... 1500 ... hda11 = log7
>
> Win2000 C:\
> 3) Win2000 ..........NTFS ............. 4450 ... hda3 = prim3
> ( inclusive win-swap )
>
> I still don't know if grub numbers the physically sequence or the devices 
> in line. So hda11 for grub is Partition no. 2 or no 3 ?  ( Sure I should
> find it out by myself, however now hurrying with a follow-up to my first
> premature request....)
>
>
> Next I will try without a special /boot-Partition for Win2000, changing the
> partitioning to that:
>
>
> 0) Hibernation     = Hidden Win95 FAT32 ( LBA ) .... 550 ... hda1 = prim1
> 1) EXCHANGE   = Win95 FAT32 (LBA) .... 500 .... hda3 = prim2
>
> Linux-ext2:
>
> 3) home = linux ext2 ........................... 550 ... hda5 = log1
> 5) / (inkl. /boot ) ...............................  3000 ... hda6 = log2
> 6) var .................................................  500 ... hda7 =
> log3 7) tmp ................................................. 500  ... hda8
> = log4 8) swap_linux .................................... 500 ... hda9 =
> log5 9) free  ............................................. 1500 ... hda10
> = log6
>
> 2) Win2000 = NTFS ......................... 4450 ... hda2 = prim3
>
>
>
> Sorry for the confusion....i work with permanent interruption on that,
> rarely find more than a few ten Minutes at once the last weeks....the
> problem is that i'm not a computer ;-)

-- 
Michl.