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Niche for Hurd - discussion - take my environment with me
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Arne Babenhauserheide |
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Niche for Hurd - discussion - take my environment with me |
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Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:27:24 +0100 |
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Am Mittwoch 29 Oktober 2008 12:16:58 schrieb olafBuddenhagen@gmx.net:
> > If most systems just differ by the translators setup on them, people
> > could even transfer their whole environment from one computer to
> > another one without needing root access or more root interaction than
> > creating a new user account. "I want my tools" -> "no problem, just
> > setup your translators".
>
> This is an interesting option -- I actually thought in a similar
> direction already.
>
> A precondition is that the same translators are available. This could be
> incovenient, but shouldn't be a serious problem, as the user can always
> compile them himself.
And with lisp now available as language for translators, a standard Hurd
installation just needs to provide the lisp bindings, and every user can take
his/her lisp translators along on a USB stick and use them without compiling.
PyHurd goes into a similar direction.
> We also need to be relatively independent of the host system to make
> sure we really get the environment we want. This requires attaching at a
> rather low level... Certainly possible, but again we need tools and
> documentation.
Yes - it isn't in the "we can already advertise this" cathegory :)
> > Also it would be possible to just open an account for stuff like
> > joining the "World Community Grid" allowing for easier sharing of CPU
> > time.
>
> Not sure what you mean here...
I mean:
Currently to offer CPU time to some program, I need to install a program from
them, and they can then do only what that proram allows them to - which leads
to reinventing a processing environment instead of just using the existing OS.
With the Hurd I could just create a user for them, give that user specific
permissions (like "you're always lowest priority"), add the public ssh keys of
the people I want to donate CPU cycles to, and they could just turn my
computer into the environment they need for their specific computation,
without compromising my system in any way.
seti@home done clean :)
It's definitely far out, though.
Best wishes,
Arne
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- Re: A niche for the Hurd, (continued)
- Re: A niche for the Hurd, Matthew Ayres, 2008/10/20
- Re: A niche for the Hurd, Samuel Thibault, 2008/10/21
- Re: A niche for the Hurd, Arne Babenhauserheide, 2008/10/21
- Re: A niche for the Hurd, Samuel Thibault, 2008/10/21
- Re: A niche for the Hurd, Arne Babenhauserheide, 2008/10/24
- Re: A niche for the Hurd, Samuel Thibault, 2008/10/24
- A niche for the Hurd - next step: reality check, Arne Babenhauserheide, 2008/10/28
- Re: A niche for the Hurd - next step: reality check, olafBuddenhagen, 2008/10/29
- Niche for Hurd - discussion - take my environment with me,
Arne Babenhauserheide <=
- Re: A niche for the Hurd - next step: reality check, Arne Babenhauserheide, 2008/10/29
- Niche for Hurd - discussion - lightweight virtualisation, Arne Babenhauserheide, 2008/10/29
- Niche for Hurd - discussion - namespace based translator selection, Arne Babenhauserheide, 2008/10/29
- Re: A niche for the Hurd - next step: reality check, Arne Babenhauserheide, 2008/10/29
- Niche for Hurd - discussion - the power of translators, Arne Babenhauserheide, 2008/10/29
- Re: Niche for Hurd - discussion - the power of translators, Samuel Thibault, 2008/10/29
- Re: Niche for Hurd - discussion - the power of translators, Arne Babenhauserheide, 2008/10/29
- Re: Niche for Hurd - discussion - the power of translators, Arne Babenhauserheide, 2008/10/29
- Niche for Hurd - discussion - academics, Arne Babenhauserheide, 2008/10/29
- Re: A niche for the Hurd, Sergiu Ivanov, 2008/10/29