Re: Doc: NR 2.1.2 Lyrics and repeats, improvement proposals

[Dmytro O. Redchuk]

On Thu 11 Nov 2010, 12:04 Xavier Scheuer wrote:
> Hi!
Hi, Xavier!

> I know that NR 2.1 have been recently (is currently being?) improved.
> I looked only at the latest _online_ (i.e. not git) version (2.13.39
> at kainhofer.com), so please excuse me if what I'm talking about has
> been already modified/improved.
Please, i do believe your proposal is already there
(http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/techniques-specific-to-lyrics),
isn't it?

Or i have missed something important?

> I'm not used to enter vocal music using LilyPond and I have recently
> struggled with "Lyrics and repeats".
> 
> Actually I find the advise to have to use  \skip "number of notes"
> really "tricky", not user-friendly at all!
> The same for the suggestion to use a temporary voice for the repeated
> section.
> 
> 
> I have been able to achieve the same (desired) result using some kind of
> "nested Lyrics" (similarly to nested staves, cf. NR 1.6.2 Ossia staves).
> These nested Lyrics expressions do not require the trick to use  \skip
> or temporary voices anymore.
> 
> What do you think about it?
> 
> Here is a proposal to use instead of the first snippet using  \skip .
> I had to use  \set associatedVoice  instead of  \lyricsto  for the
> nested Lyrics because  \lyricsto  was shifting the lyrics one syllable
> to the right!
> 
> \score {
>   <<
>     \new Staff {
>       \new Voice = "melody" {
>         \relative c'' {
>           a4 a a a
>           \repeat volta 2 { b4 b b b }
>         }
>       }
>     }
>     \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" {
>       Not re -- peat -- ed.
>       <<
>       {
>         The first time words.
>       }
>       \new Lyrics {
>         \set associatedVoice = "melody"
>         Sec -- ond time words.
>       }
>       >>
>     }
>   >>
> }
> 
> 
> And here is a proposal to use instead of the the one that was using a
> temporary voice (not needed anymore).
> 
> \score {
>   <<
>     \new Staff {
>       \new Voice = "singleVoice" {
>         \relative c'' {
>         a4 a a a
>         \repeat volta 3 { b4 b b b }
>           c4 c c c
>       }
>       }
>     }
>     \new Lyrics \lyricsto "singleVoice" {
>       Not re -- peat -- ed.
>       <<
>         {
>         The first time words.
>       }
>       \new Lyrics {
>         \set associatedVoice = "singleVoice"
>         Sec -- ond time words.
>       }
>       \new Lyrics {
>         \set associatedVoice = "singleVoice"
>         The third time words.
>       }
>       >>
>       The end sec -- tion.
>     }
>   >>
> }
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Xavier
> 
> -- 
> Xavier Scheuer <address@hidden>
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