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Re: Re: [Chicken-users] chicken scheme on handhelds


From: john
Subject: Re: Re: [Chicken-users] chicken scheme on handhelds
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 20:50:12 +0000

I will try and put a skelton of the wiki document up this weekend and
be good if you can add what ever your setup is. I crossed compiled
Chicken but build eggs on board for simplicity for example. I have
cross compiled eggs with no problem also. Probably the easiest method
is to use scratchbox and build everything through that. I have not
built eggs through that yet though. So many options and many different
kinds of hardware. Be good to narrow down the most productive methods
and what range of hardware these work on. Nintendo DS anyone? :)

That phone looks interesting yeh. You can get hold of a trolltech
greenphone now but they are pricey!

Cheers.

On 08/11/06, Shawn Rutledge <address@hidden> wrote:
Good idea about the wiki.

The trouble is most handhelds don't have a compiler installed (they
tend to be short on flash).  So I run chicken in a chroot environment
on a CF card in the Zaurus.  (The chroot environment is Debian-arm.)

Ideally the Scheme compiler would run fast on a handheld, and just in
case it's not fast enough, it would also be possible to cross-compile
Scheme to an ARM binary, on a PC.  So far gcc is a tad slow on an ARM
(but not too terrible - I do actually use it; maybe it's like running
x86 gcc on a 386); and I don't think cross-compiling is practical, is
it?  If somebody ever finishes the ARM backend for tcc (a very fast C
compiler) we could use that on the handheld itself.  And you have to
be able to afford to actually install it on the handheld.  Later I
might work on getting chicken into OpenEmbedded, if that hasn't been
done yet, but I think I would have to leave out something else in
order to have enough space for chicken plus gcc and all of the libs.

I also want to try to do it on the OpenMoko phone (announced
yesterday) ASAP, but haven't figured out how to get one yet.

On 08 Nov 2006 12:17:18 -0200, Mario Domenech Goulart
<address@hidden> wrote:
> Hello John,
>
> On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 13:53:46 +0000 john <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> > I know there are one or two people out there playing around with
> > Chicken on handheld devices like the Sharp Zaurus, Nokia 770 etc.
> > Anyway, I have created a group on orkut (orkut.com) dedicated to this
> > topic. If you have an orkut account and are interested, please come
> > and join. If you need an orkut account let me know.
>
> How about filling a wiki page with this topic? Maybe at the
> "Tutorials" section for people getting started to Chicken on handhelds
> or even a whole section about Chicken on handhelds?
>
> I have a SL-5600 borrowed from a friend and an old version of Chicken
> installed on it (got it from
> http://www.mneuroth.de/privat/zaurus/chicken.html).  But I can't do
> much with it, since I don't have a compiler installed and admitedly I
> haven't invested much time on it.
>
> I think a wiki section about Chicken on handhelds would be great.
>
> Best wishes,
> Mario
>
>
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