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Re: OT: Eclipse Additions


From: Phil Muldoon
Subject: Re: OT: Eclipse Additions
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:01:10 -0600

On Mon, 2005-02-21 at 11:35 -0700, Tom Tromey wrote:
> >>>>> "Andrew" == Andrew Overholt <address@hidden> writes:
> 
> Andrew> Now comes the fun part: making Eclipse better for your needs.
> Andrew> We're interested in hearing what you think would make Eclipse
> Andrew> a more useful tool for you in your work with GNU Classpath.
> Andrew> What kind of things annoy you?  What kind of new features
> Andrew> would you like to see?  What kind of changes to existing
> Andrew> aspects of Eclipse would make things easier for you?  Ideas of
> Andrew> all shapes and sizes are welcome whether they be very specific
> Andrew> or very general.
> 
> In general I think the problems with using Eclipse to do Classpath
> development aren't in Eclipse so much as they are in the VMs; for
> instance, no free VM that I know of implements JDWP, so there's no way
> to debug.

There is an effort looking at implementing JDWP right now (though it is
in the planning stages). Ideally the hope is to get it done sooner,
rather than later (it's crucial to debugging within Eclipse, as you
know).

> But, here are some things that might help:
> 
> * Make sure code formatting can complete handle Classpath's style.
>   In 3.0 this wasn't true.  3.1M4 looked better here, but perhaps not
>   perfect (I didn't try exhaustively).

I did some work with the Visual Editor group, and they sent me an xml
file I imported that basically made Eclipse format code in the style
that they wanted. It was pretty neat, but I forget the mechanism that is
used. I will look into it, but it might be we could provide one of these
as default.

> Anyway, wish-list stuff...
> 
> * Better JNI integration, see
> 
>   https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=22933
> 
>   and the similar-but-not-as-detailed:
> 
>   https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=81828
> 
> * Make it simpler to submit patches the GNU way.
> 
>   https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=74351
>   https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=74353
> 
>   Even better, have a way to mail the patch right from Eclipse.

All neat, and important stuff to have.

> 
> * Bug tracking plugin would be "nice to have".

We already have the bugzilla plugin as a line item for Fedora Core 4, so
this should help.

> * GCC is talking about moving to subversion, subclipse might be
>   needed at some future date.

I did not add this to the list of stuff we should look at for Fedora
Core 4. But if there is a lot of support for it, we can look at adding
it.

Regards

Phil





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