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Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?


From: Eric Blake
Subject: Re: ls is broken, what's next cd?
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 08:31:11 -0600
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On 02/06/2018 03:38 AM, Kamil Dudka wrote:
I do not need to search as I have been following the discussions in real time.
It is always the same.  GNU coreutils authors explain why changing the default
was a good idea whereas all other users explain why the change was unexpected
at best and desperately ask for revert.

This is a logical fallacy, you are relying on confirmation bias. The users that are complaining are quite possibly a disproportionate set of overall users. The users that are not bothered by the change, or have not even noticed it, or which even appreciate the changes, are not complaining. But there is no easy way to determine which percentage of the population are opposed to the new default, vs. those which are okay with the new default, because only those opposed to the default are complaining on the list.

The question is *not* which quoting style is better default.  The question is
whether GNU coreutils users appreciate the *change* of the well-known default.

The change has already been made. Even if we now revert it, users still have to deal with versions in the wild that have the change. So since users already have to deal with it, they might as well always have to deal with it. We prefer a default of erring on the side of safety when it comes to output that is ambiguous or could corrupt a terminal, but leave enough knobs that you can customize a different default for your preferred setup.

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Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
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