On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 00:46 +0300, alex stone wrote:
> Richard, it's good news.
I should add a caveat: I have only the foggiest idea what this field you
are in is all about (daws?, LSampler?, write a picture?...)
I *did* have occasion to do a little composing the other day, not
something I have done this past forty years, and I realised how useful
it would be to be able to set denemo playing and join in on the MIDI
keyboard with the notes I played getting added to the score. (I think I
would want to put in the rhythm first, as I usually do).
This is because I have a glacially slow speed playing a keyboard from a
score, so if Denemo would play it for me while I added a line into it
that would be great.
So this has sparked my interest in live MIDI out from Denemo. But that
is not very far in the direction you would like to go I suspect. So no
holding your breath anyone.
>
> And Nils is right.
> A fully featured Dictionary/list, and user defined port/channel/patch
> would be unique, capturing the power of LSampler, as it was designed
> to run, resulting in great playback,and a much closer reality for
> those of us who enjoy the thrill of writing digital parchment.
>
> I'll also add another futuristic idea here. (gulp)
>
> Most daws are ill served to write to picture (film.) whether it's poor
> notation, sloppy audio timing, or coarse midi, each of them
> has....something that detracts from the process, and results in a lot
> of donkey work.
> And notation has suffered most of all in this regard. Even Sibelius's
> attempt to match notation to film was dodgy, and often resulted in
> mistimed events, which meant the user would have to save a midi file,
> import into a daw, and repeat the process of matching sound to pic.
>
> In the Jack 'world' we have the bonus of good timing between jack
> audio, and now jack midi. Add to that the good timing for vid, and
> there's a good opportunity to marry all three together, notation,
> timing, and vid.
>
> I wonder what the great Bernard Hermann, who wrote score whilst
> watching a film, would have thought of this.
>
> So if Denemo responded to timing cues, within the jackmidi framework,
> and, in the future, Denemo had a 'strip' of some sort at the top of
> the score, which reflected timing, i.e. minutes, seconds, etc...
see below
> then the three elements could come together pretty well. I realise
> we'd still need to record, and polish a notated midi score, but as i
> wrote in the previous post, if doing this reduces the volume of donkey
> work, then it's, imho, something worth considering. (Write notation to
> pic, record to audio, with timing intact, and polish)
>
> Importantly, were Denemo to take on a more direct role, as
> Notator/Engraver/Timed Source to pic, then we'd probably be able to
> reduce the need for interim steps in the compositional process. And
> add to that, a finished score in lilypond format, and the
> classical/film composer would be better served than with any other
> setup i know of. (And i've owned, and have gathering dust, most daws,
> and notation editors.)
>
> This is idea basically requires only a timing device/meter, shown only
> in the score when composing. (not to be printed)
> I don't know how to code so i don't know how difficult this would be
> to achieve, or even consider.
I suspect we will have the possibility to write a script that does that
quite shortly: to each chord/rest a DenemoDirective is attached which
displays on a strip above the staff the time computed from some tempo
data. I am just now adding the ability to put the displayed text in a
strip (or anywhere else of course). Then we could simply step through
the score computing the timing of each note, taking into account the
note lengths and (equivalent of) metronome markigs. More work will be
creating/setting/querying a MIDI track. I wrote an outline of this a
week or two back.
Perhaps Jeremiah has got this in mind with his introduction of a MIDI
out channel?
Richard