Re: [Denemo-devel] "Go To Next Interior End" Script. Maybe for git?

[Richard Shann]

On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 10:31 +0200, Nils Gey wrote:
> > These empty measures are a nasty irregularity of Denemo. They cause
> > unexpected cursor behavior.
> > So I think we should think hard before we make these a feature, and
> > start programming around them. 
> 
> Oh! This is unexpected, I always liked this about Denemo.
I was just wondering whether perhaps you might say that. I think you
know more about this than I do. Just internally it is an accident, which
I patched up by outputting whole measure rests (do these work in non-4/4
time?).

>  These are very convenient if you compose with more than one staff. Its good 
> you don't have to put rests in those measures, because naturally you want to 
> fill these holes sometimes, and then you don't have to delete all those rests 
> (you have to put in other notation software)
> 
> And I don't see how they misbehave.
Well, the cursor does slightly strange things - different from there
being a rest in the measure. So if we have time to think about how we
would like d-CursorRight, d-NextObject etc to work, then that would be
good, before we get too many scripts written to work around strange
behavior. (There is already the "cursor-appending" position at the end
of each measure, where the cursor stops if you do d-CursorRight, and
d-NextObject works around that I think...)
>  If they are blank, they get rests. Maybe this can be printed out as 
> multi-measure rests, but otherwise I see no problem.
Well, I wasn't going to move to fix anything here, until I had some good
ideas. So, that's good feedback, thank you!
> 
> I created this script because I think of the "End"-key as a feature which 
> jumps to the place where I have to compose/transcribe on. Usually this is the 
> real end, but sometimes its just an empty measure because I already composed 
> an End for all instruments, but a part between is missing in some staffs.
> 
So was I right in thinking that it should be called d-NextBlankMeasure?
Richard



> Nils
> 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Interior is a translation of "Binnen" which is a German word for interior 
> > > in the meaning of "Inland navigation/water", "Internal waters" or 
> > > "Landlocked country".
> > > 
> > > So it means not the final end but a kind of end within the whole system.
> > > 
> > > You are right, your script is better. The (+i 0) was remaining garbage 
> > > from my trials (and errors). Whats missing is the initial CursorRight, 
> > > which is needed if you want to use this script consecutively. Just try it 
> > > with and without (d-CursorRight)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > (d-CursorRight)
> > > (let gotoEnd () (if  (d-NextObject) (gotoEnd)))
> > > (d-RefreshDisplay)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Nils
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:35:44 +0100
> > > Richard Shann <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > This is great - I didn't know about named let before! When Jeremiah
> > > > started contributing scripts I learnt about (define (proc)...) to avoid
> > > > using (lambda...)
> > > > Now about your script:
> > > > 
> > > > On my system this script just moves the cursor to the end.
> > > > In fact several things puzzle me:
> > > >         (+ i 0)
> > > > is just i
> > > > 
> > > > so couldn't this script be written 
> > > > 
> > > > (let gotoEnd () (if  (d-NextObject) (gotoEnd)))
> > > > (d-RefreshDisplay)
> > > > 
> > > > what did you mean - Interior End ?
> > > > 
> > > > Richard
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 16:24 +0200, Nils Gey wrote:
> > > > > I bound that to Crtl+End on my system. Works pretty well.
> > > > > Is this ready for git or is it bad scheme-style? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't think I have write-rights for git.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ;;;;;Go to next Interior End
> > > > > (d-CursorRight) ;starts with a forced step so the command becomes 
> > > > > repeatable.
> > > > > (let counter ((i 1)) 
> > > > >   (if (d-NextObject)
> > > > >       (counter (+ i 0))
> > > > >    )
> > > > >  )
> > > > > (d-RefreshDisplay) ;Only one time refresh so it feels like a real 
> > > > > jump, not a sequence of steps.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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