Re: [Denemo-devel] music samples

[Richard Shann]

"Music Snippets" is now in git. This means you can keep a collection of
snippets for pasting in to your score, or use them as patterns for
playing in pitches.
The commands for inserting a snippet and changing from one snippet to
another are rather buried in the menu system at the moment:(
(you need to be looking under Edit and Select Duration)
The Pasting is done via the d-Paste script and this currently has a bug
which Nils is fixing.

Richard


On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 14:12 +0100, Richard Shann wrote:
> I have used the terms
> music sample
> riff
> snippet
> motif
> 
> interchangeably. Is there a common name for such a thing? 
> Is there a program featuring the more advanced use - where changing the
> sample changes all the instances of it througout the score?
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 11:27 +0200, Nils Gey wrote:
> > Hi Richard,
> > 
> > this is indeed a very good idea.
> > As you might now, working with patterns and reusing parts is one of my 
> > longtime goals in Denemo. 
> > A multiclip-clipboard is a good thing, especially if its trivial to 
> > implement. 
> > 
> > Working with reference-points, the holy grail as you mentioned 
> > appropriately, is indeed one of my biggest wishes :)
> > 
> > Nils
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 27 May 2010 10:05:38 +0100
> > Richard Shann <address@hidden> wrote:
> > 
> > > I have had a Good Idea. We can easily store fragments of music (as we do
> > > when we push the Denemo Clipboard), and then insert these wherever
> > > needed in a composition.
> > > For my work I would want to do this when entering the rhythm of a piece
> > > - some quite complicated rhythmic patterns (involving grace notes,
> > > tuplets, slurs, ties and articulations) are often repeated, and take a
> > > fair amount of mental effort to create. By storing them and just
> > > recalling them at the points needed I think I will get a faster input.
> > > (Astute followers of Denemo will feel they heard this before: correct,
> > > the rhythm pattern toolbar allows you to store a rhythm and then follow
> > > it as you play in notes; this goes further, as the whole of the music is
> > > stored, not just the rhythm).
> > > 
> > >  I suspect some composers will also find it useful to be able to
> > > repeatedly paste motifs into their scores. There is also the possibility
> > > (later) of making these stored motifs persist (ie get stored with the
> > > music) and by giving them a reference count achieve the holy grail of
> > > computer-aided composition: riffs/motifs/samples etc which are created
> > > once and re-used by reference, so that changing the riff changes all the
> > > occurrences of it in the music.
> > > 
> > > Here are my notes on how this could be done (it is virtually trivial):
> > > 
> > > music samples - clipboards stored as/with rhythm patterns
> > > When you hit Create Pattern (=> New) it pushes the clipboard then d-Copy
> > > and then PopOffClipboard which takes the top most clipboard and attaches
> > > it to the rhythm pattern.
> > > So the rhythm pattern acts as an icon for the stored snippet of music,
> > > and it can be clicked on to paste. These icons will appear on what is
> > > currently called the rhythm toolbar, it will need to be re-named music
> > > samples; it will still function as a follower for entering notes
> > > following its rhythm.
> > > So you can paste the music sample (clipboard) anywhere at any stage.
> > > Needed: ability to fix this toolbar so that it does not vanish with the
> > > Line View (where all menus etc are hidden), since you would need it for
> > > entering music.
> > > 
> > > Also, MIDI default should be to play non-printing notes using percussion
> > > channel. A command to remove the pitches from a piece would give a way
> > > of preparing music exercises: remove the pitches and the user creates
> > > (by playing) a new melody for the given rhythm.
> > > Well, that is two Good Ideas:)
> > > 
> > > Richard
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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