Re: [Denemo-devel] tablature status (August 2012)

[Richard Shann]

How are things going with the static linux thing? I have fixed the
outstanding issues for Windows binary (AFAIK) so we are looking good for
a release.
Richard

On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 13:10 -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
> The windows git snapshot works perfectly in wine. I can work toward creating 
> a static linux version in the next few days.
> 
> Jeremiah
> 
> Sent from my Samsung smartphone on AT&T
> 
> Richard Shann <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 18:05 +0200, Federico Bruni wrote:
> >> Il 07/08/2012 17:34, Richard Shann ha scritto:
> >> > On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 13:09 +0200, Federico Bruni wrote:
> >> >> Hi Denemo developers,
> >> >>
> >> >> I wonder what's the status of tablature support in Denemo.
> >> >> Every now and then I try Denemo to check it but...as I've never used it,
> >> >> I'm not sure if I'm missing something.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm using Denemo 0.9.2 on Debian testing.
> >> >> I can see that I can input the music in a Staff and choose TabStaff as
> >> >> output. The PDF will contain only the TabStaff.
> >> >> I don't know if this is a new feature or just the fact that I'm using
> >> >> the lilypond mode.
> >> > It's been in there for a while - 0.9.4 is pretty out of date - we have
> >> > 0.9.6 ready. It tells LilyPond do print the staff as tab. If you want
> >> > both the straightforward thing to do is to duplicate the staff I guess.
> >> > That would be a bit crude though - if you edited one the other would
> >> > need re-creating.
> >> 
> >> No, too crude :)
> >> 
> >> > With the upcoming release you could have a layout that printed the same
> >> > music on two staffs one as tab the other as normal staff notation. (This
> >> > is actually possible in 0.9.4 but you have to know LilyPond and create a
> >> > custom scoreblock to do it in the View->LilyPond window - the score
> >> > layout feature of 0.9.6 avoids you having to know the LilyPond to do
> >> > this).
> >> >
> >> 
> >> LilyPond is not a problem (actually I love LilyPond "interface" and I'm 
> >> trying some frontend only for teaching purposes, as LilyPond is too 
> >> geeky for most of people).
> >> 
> >> Good to know that 0.9.4 would support it somehow.
> >hmm, I see I gave the impression this was new in 0.9.4, but actually you
> >can do this sort of thing in versions going back much further. What is
> >new in 0.9.6 is that you can have several different score layouts kept
> >with your music, which don't need updating when you correct the music.
> >And you can create many sorts of layouts without getting geeky with
> >LilyPond.
> >> My problem now is that I cannot compile Denemo without breaking other 
> >> programs.
> >> I decided not to use 'apt-get build-dep denemo' because it wanted to 
> >> replace jack2 with jack. And I use some programs which depend on jack2: 
> >> ardour and stretchplayer, for example.
> >> So I tried installing dependencies one by one, following the warnings of 
> >> configure. And I had to stop when installing libfluidsynth-dev, because 
> >> again it wanted to replace jack2 with jack.
> >> 
> >> I'm stuck here.
> >> Unfortunately even Debian sid doesn't have 0.9.4 yet:
> >
> >I think that is probably my fault for not alerting the Debian packager
> >about 0.9.4, partly because I knew 0.9.6 was coming hot on its heels. 
> >It sounds like this dependency problem is one between fluidsynth and
> >jack? Not one we can do anything about in Denemo? I wonder if we should
> >create a statically linked binary for GNU/Linux that people could try
> >out, or use until the distros catch up... As it stands, folk running
> >Windows are better off than those on GNU/Linux, which is bad for free
> >software.
> >If knowledgeable folk are listening in, please feel free to advise!
> >
> >Richard
> >
> >
> >> http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=denemo&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
> >> 
> >> >>
> >> >> Obviously I'm looking for the normal workflow, such as in Tuxguitar and
> >> >> in lilypond: you write the music in the Staff and you see the notes
> >> >> (well, the numbers) appearing automatically also in TabStaff.
> >> > If you are thinking about what you see as you enter the music (rather
> >> > than what is printed) then no, Denemo has no routines to display tab.
> >> 
> >> I see, I guessed it
> >> 
> >> > You would enter notes and Denemo would print the same notes on two
> >> > staffs one tab and one normal. Or you could have a layout where they
> >> > were printed out one after the other as separate pieces of music, if
> >> > that is what you wanted.
> >> 
> >> If 0.9.4 allows to enter music in one staff and make it appear in two 
> >> staves, it would be a good compromise. At least I could print 
> >> Staff+TabStaff, which is what I want.
> >> 
> >> Unfortunately I can't test it now.
> >> 
> >> > HTH
> >> > Richard
> >> >
> >> >> Is it possible in Denemo?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >> PS Link to the old manual is broken:
> >> >> http://denemo.org/Manual
> >> >
> >> > hmm, where is the link? With the upcoming release you get tooltips
> >> > almost everywhere... and the possibility of translating Denemo.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> 
> >> I mean, this page doesn't work:
> >> http://old.denemo.org/doc/denemo-manual.html
> >> 
> >> Tooltips are a good solution, sometimes they can almost replace 
> >> Documentation.
> >> 
> >> Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
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