Re: [Denemo-devel] inserting (or changing) barlines

[Richard Shann]

On Mon, 2016-10-03 at 15:40 -0700, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> I've attached 2 screenshots where I've inserted barlines. The first 
> screenshot shows the barline placed after the End Cadenza. The second 
> screenshot shows the barline placed before the Start Cadenza.

I think if you post up the LilyPond syntax generated all should be
clear. And just to be on the safe side, first create the example with
the double barline inserted after the cadenza end. Then save the file
and re-open it. Check how it typesets and File->Export->Export LilyPond
to get a file to send to the mailing list.
In that file you should see \bar "|" followed by \bar "||" at the same
(musical) moment. Which should typeset as a double bar.

I've changed the End Cadenza Time script now so that it explicitly
inserts the \bar "|" instead of incorporating the bit of syntax for it
in the time signature. This means the confusion won't arise, you will
see the type of barline and can change it. (You could edit it already,
e.g. in the LilyPond View but that is too technical looking for those
not familiar with LilyPond syntax). Thanks for alerting me to this.

Richard


> 
> The barline placed after the End Cadenza does not print, but all others 
> do.
> 
> On Monday, October 3, 2016 9:48:28 PM PDT Richard Shann wrote:
> > On Mon, 2016-10-03 at 12:01 -0700, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> > > I see a potential problem here, which is causing my woes regarding
> > > barlines: Cadenza Time alters the ability to add a double barline.
> > > 
> > > The particular piece I'm engraving has a number of double bar lines. 
> As I
> > > scroll through (using the keyboard's left and right arrows), I notice 
> that
> > > in 'normal' time, the end of the measure displays a RED square at the
> > > cursor point. This is where I simply insert a measure (Directives-> 
> > > >Inserting Barlines->Double Bar). In Cadenza Time, the cursor 
> displays a
> > > 
> > > BLUE square at the 'end' of the measure. Inserting a double bar here
> > > does not display the double bar line.
> > 
> > This is because the Cadenza Off object has a single barline as part of
> > its syntax. If you double click on the Cadenza Off object (the large T)
> > you will see
> > 
> > The LilyPond syntax generated is: " \cadenzaOff \bar "|" \once \override
> > Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f  \time 4/4 "
> > 
> > it is the \bar "|" that is being typeset, because your \bar "||" is
> > before it, and LilyPond only uses the last of multiple \bar commands at
> > the same musical moment.
> > 
> > If you move the double barline object *after* the End Cadenza object
> > then it will take priority.
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > > On Sunday, October 2, 2016 7:54:33 PM PDT Richard Shann wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 2016-10-02 at 10:26 -0700, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> > > > > I'd like to change some 'normal' barlines in a piece to double bar
> > > 
> > > lines.
> > > 
> > > > > Would I insert a measure? or is there a better way to change an
> > > 
> > > existing
> > > 
> > > > > barline to a double barline?
> > > > 
> > > > a search for "double bar..." in the Command Center yielded
> > > > 
> > > > Command: Double Bar
> > > > Insert a double barline at cursor position.
> > > > Location: ObjectMenu->Directives->Barlines
> > > > Internal Name: DoubleBarline
> > > > 
> > > > Richard
> > > > 
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