Re: [Denemo-devel] inserting (or changing) barlines

[Donald J. Stewart]

Do you think this build would also affect the time signature? Because it 
seems that that the same thing happens to time signatures as well...

On Tuesday, October 4, 2016 3:13:07 PM PDT Richard Shann wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-10-03 at 15:40 -0700, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> > I've attached 2 screenshots where I've inserted barlines. The first
> > screenshot shows the barline placed after the End Cadenza. The 
second
> > screenshot shows the barline placed before the Start Cadenza.
> > 
> > The barline placed after the End Cadenza does not print, but all 
others
> > do.
> 
> Just looking again at your screenshots I can see the problem. You have
> more than one staff and the other staffs have End Cadenza marks. 
These
> all have \bar "|" embedded in them, and as (I guess) LilyPond sees the
> music in descending column order those other \bar "|" will be seen 
last.
> 
> All this will be a thing of the past in tomorrow's build where there is
> an explicit bar line accompanying the EndCadenza mark which you can
> replace with your desired double barline. In your score you can place
> the double barline after the EndCadeza in the lowest staff and all
> should be well.
> 
> Richard
> 
> > On Monday, October 3, 2016 9:48:28 PM PDT Richard Shann wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2016-10-03 at 12:01 -0700, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> > > > I see a potential problem here, which is causing my woes 
regarding
> > > > barlines: Cadenza Time alters the ability to add a double barline.
> > > > 
> > > > The particular piece I'm engraving has a number of double bar 
lines.
> > 
> > As I
> > 
> > > > scroll through (using the keyboard's left and right arrows), I notice
> > 
> > that
> > 
> > > > in 'normal' time, the end of the measure displays a RED square at 
the
> > > > cursor point. This is where I simply insert a measure (Directives->
> > > > 
> > > > >Inserting Barlines->Double Bar). In Cadenza Time, the cursor
> > 
> > displays a
> > 
> > > > BLUE square at the 'end' of the measure. Inserting a double bar 
here
> > > > does not display the double bar line.
> > > 
> > > This is because the Cadenza Off object has a single barline as part 
of
> > > its syntax. If you double click on the Cadenza Off object (the large T)
> > > you will see
> > > 
> > > The LilyPond syntax generated is: " \cadenzaOff \bar "|" \once 
\override
> > > Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f  \time 4/4 "
> > > 
> > > it is the \bar "|" that is being typeset, because your \bar "||" is
> > > before it, and LilyPond only uses the last of multiple \bar commands 
at
> > > the same musical moment.
> > > 
> > > If you move the double barline object *after* the End Cadenza 
object
> > > then it will take priority.
> > > 
> > > Richard
> > > 
> > > > On Sunday, October 2, 2016 7:54:33 PM PDT Richard Shann wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, 2016-10-02 at 10:26 -0700, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> > > > > > I'd like to change some 'normal' barlines in a piece to double 
bar
> > > > 
> > > > lines.
> > > > 
> > > > > > Would I insert a measure? or is there a better way to change 
an
> > > > 
> > > > existing
> > > > 
> > > > > > barline to a double barline?
> > > > > 
> > > > > a search for "double bar..." in the Command Center yielded
> > > > > 
> > > > > Command: Double Bar
> > > > > Insert a double barline at cursor position.
> > > > > Location: ObjectMenu->Directives->Barlines
> > > > > Internal Name: DoubleBarline
> > > > > 
> > > > > Richard
> > > > > 
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