Re: [Denemo-devel] Custom Barlines

[Richard Shann]

On Fri, 2017-09-22 at 13:08 +0000, NagyMusic wrote:
> I was able to successfully customize and modify the barline behavior.
> However, once a custom barline is introduced (e.g., dotted), it is
> repeated at the beginning of a new system. What would be the best way
> to avoid that?

Did you find the help text for the Custom Barline command? (Right click
and choose Help):

Command: CustomBarline

Information:
Create a custom barline.
These can be named, or can simply override a standard LilyPond bar line
type.
A bar line is defined by four forms, which describe 1) the appearance
normally (during a line), 
2) appearance when the barline is at the beginning or 
3) end of a line , and 
4) what to show when joining staffs together as with a Piano Staff.
Barline forms are made of characters including |,:,.,[,],:
and others in the LilyPond documentation.


It would seem that for number (2) above you chose a dotted barline
instead of "" a blank ...

Richard


>  When regular (default) barline is used, the barline is not repeated
> at the beginning of a new system. I attached my practice score and
> Denemo file for your reference.  
> 
> 
> Thank you for your help!
> 
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 4:30 AM Richard Shann
> <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
>         On Wed, 2017-09-20 at 19:36 +0000, NagyMusic wrote:
>         > While I was able to successfully create a custom barline (I
>         gave it a
>         > name and inserted the Lilypond symbol four times as
>         prompted), I can't
>         > seem to find a way to insert this newly created barline in
>         music
>         > without using Directives->Insert LilyPond. Any advice? In
>         other words,
>         > where can one find the command to insert the newly created
>         custom
>         > barline?
>         
>         Directives->Menu of Objects to Insert
>         
>         this is an empty menu until you have created a custom barline.
>         More
>         generally, if you create a Score->LilyPond Definition then you
>         can
>         insert it via this command.
>         
>         Otherwise as I wrote before:
>         
>         
>              1. Move the cursor onto the Denemo Directive created in
>         step 4
>                 above (it is marked as a line with a blob on top)
>              2. Right click on it and choose "Create button for clone"
>              3. Select a palette from the list or create a new one
>              4. Type a label for the button
>              5. The button now appears in the palette you chose,
>         clicking it
>                 inserts a clone of the Denemo Directive object that
>         inserts the
>                 LilyPond syntax.
>         
>         You can also turn the script that the button runs into a menu
>         item...
>         
>         Via that route you could eventually arrive at a command with a
>         single
>         keyboard shortcut that would insert your barline. (If you were
>         doing all
>         that you would probably improve the way the barline displays
>         itself in
>         the Denemo Display, so that you could recognize it more
>         easily).
>         
>         Richard
>         
>         >
>         >
>         > Thank you!
>         >
>         >
>         > On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:52 AM Richard Shann
>         > <address@hidden> wrote:
>         >
>         >         On Sun, 2017-09-17 at 00:47 +0000, NagyMusic wrote:
>         >         > Hello,
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         > As a new user of Denemo with extensive Lilypond
>         experience,
>         >         I'm
>         >         > writing to ask how to create custom barlines
>         (e.g., dashed,
>         >         dotted,
>         >         > etc.) in line with all available Lilypond options:
>         >         >
>         http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/bars
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         > I tried creating a custom barline tool found in
>         the Barline
>         >         tab, but
>         >         > it didn't seem to work.
>         >
>         >         That would be this command I guess:
>         >         >
>         >         Command: Custom Barline
>         >         Create a custom barline.
>         >         These can be named, or can simply override a
>         standard LilyPond
>         >         bar line
>         >         type.
>         >         A bar line is defined by four forms, which describe
>         1) the
>         >         appearance
>         >         normally (during a line),
>         >         2) appearance when the barline is at the beginning
>         or
>         >         3) end of a line , and
>         >         4) what to show when joining staffs together as with
>         a Piano
>         >         Staff.
>         >         Barline forms are made of characters including
>         |,:,.,[,],:
>         >         and others in the LilyPond documentation.
>         >         Location: Object Menu ▶ Score ▶ Typesetter
>         >         Internal Name: CustomBarline
>         >
>         >
>         >         I just tried it, taking all the default responses.
>         It created
>         >         this
>         >         syntax (in the LilyPond window)
>         >
>         >         \defineBarLine "|-A" #'("|" "|" "|")
>         >         BarA = \bar "|-A"
>         >
>         >         I tried it out by inserting the LilyPond syntax
>         "\BarA"
>         >         between two
>         >         notes (using Directives->Insert LilyPond) and got
>         this
>         >
>         >          f'2 f'4 \BarA   \tuplet 3/2 { f'8 f' f' }
>         >         >
>         >         So it seems the help for this command is inadequate,
>         and in
>         >         any case it
>         >         would seem to be a good idea if the command created
>         a command
>         >         to insert
>         >         the newly-created type of barline. I have submitted
>         a bug
>         >         report about
>         >         this.
>         >
>         >         Thank you for reporting this bug. If you need help
>         creating a
>         >         particular
>         >         barline please ask.
>         >
>         >         Richard
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         
>