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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Cordic question


From: Brian Padalino
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Cordic question
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 21:10:02 -0400

On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Sebastiaan Heunis <address@hidden> wrote:
> Hi everyone
>
> I've got a question regarding the cordic on the usrp.  I've read up a
> lot about how it works.  Apparently we get approximately a bit of
> accuracy per iteration, so a 12 iteration (included with the normal
> usrp fpga build) should give us close to 72dB of dynamic range.  I did
> some simulations in icarus verilog to verify this.  The results are
> attached.  The signals are all mixed down from 20MHz to 100kHz.
> 6M.jpg is a 6MHz wide chirp, 150kHz.jpg is a 150kHz wide chirp and
> sine is just a sine wave.
>
> The funny thing is, the larger the bandwidth of the signal, the worse
> the dynamic range after the cordic becomes.  Might this be a
> simulation mistake from my side, or is this what happens in the
> cordic?  I ran another simulation with a 6MHz chirp where I increased
> the number of stages of the cordic to 15.  The result is the same.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions?  Maybe increasing the bit widths in
> some places?
>
> I want to get as much of the ADC's dynamic range as possible.  If the
> current cordic configuration does this, I'm happy.  I use a usrp build
> with two IQ RX paths and no TX, so there is some space on the fpga
> left for improving the cordic if I need to.
>
> Thanks in advance.

The sum of all your signal power for each of the simulations should
all be equal.

Remember that DFT's are averages for the entire block.  The wider you
spread your energy, the less time you spend at one specific frequency.
 Instantaneously, I believe, you're getting the full dynamic range and
the CORDIC is working properly.

Moreover, I think you're confusing dynamic range and SNR.

Does that make sense?

Brian




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