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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] SDR Radio Telescope Receiver


From: Patrik Tast
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] SDR Radio Telescope Receiver
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 00:18:53 +0200

Hi Jeff,

I'm interested to learn about Joe's hydraulic antenna pointing system.
Do you know how he handles the feedback, ie what kind of sensors
is he using to "know" the antenna position?

At the moment we're trying to use Pololu Jrk as a low cost motor control with feedback
http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1393
and
http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1392

Patrik



----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Kelly" <address@hidden>
To: <address@hidden>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 20:39
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] SDR Radio Telescope Receiver


I have been working with Joe K5SO on the OpenHPSDR project
using two Mercury receivers for diversity reception.  I mention
Joe because he is using his system for Radio Astronomy:
Perhaps there would something on his site.

http://www.k5so.com/

Jeff
K2SDR


-----Original Message----- From: Marcus D. Leech Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 12:52 PM To: Phil Behnke ; address@hidden Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] SDR Radio Telescope Receiver
On 01/29/2011 12:37 PM, Phil Behnke wrote:
Thanks for the tips!  I'm definitely going to investigate hooking the
ADC directly to the FX2.  Looks like there are some inexpensive dev
boards for the FX2 on ebay, although I have no idea how good they are.
 I figure I will try to develop the receiver to always grab 1MHz worth
of bandwidth, and then give the user finer filtering abilities by
using digital filters on the PC side.

That's probably a reasonable approach.  The FX2 is actually a
fairly-capable chip.  It's used in the
 USRP1 from Ettus Research, which can "pump" upto 16Msps(complex,
8-bit) over USB-2.0,
 so 1Msps should be more than doable.

You have to make certain that your I and Q lines are low-pass filtered,
fairly stiffly, prior to sampling.
 If you're sampling at 1Msps, the I and Q lines need to be low-pass
filtered to 500KHz.  There's a nice
 passive-filter designer on-line at:

http://www.wa4dsy.net/filter/filterdesign.html

I've used it for other radio astronomy projects in the past

Other things to keep in mind:

   o you'll need enough low-noise gain ahead of the down-converter to
make up for the
      *terrible* noise figure that's typical of mixers and ADCs.  At
HF, in radio astronomy, you'll
      probably need about 50dB.

   o You'll need a good bandpass filter at RF.  Again, the
above-mentioned site should help here.  A
       good approach is to use a amp-filter/amp-filter/amp-filter
topology, which gives you distributed gain
       and filtering, and makes the individual filter stages
manageable.  If you designed your bandpass
       RF filter for an Fc of 20Mhz, and bandwidth of 5Mhz or so, it'll
improve your usable dynamic
       range, and prevent driving your gain stages into compression,
due to "other muck" that your
       antenna will inevitably "see".





--
Principal Investigator
Shirleys Bay Radio Astronomy Consortium
http://www.sbrac.org



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