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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] UCLA ZigBee and the Capture Effect


From: bjoernm
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] UCLA ZigBee and the Capture Effect
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:09:55 +0100
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Hi, thanks for the hints!

I was thinking about the clock recovery too. Its pretty complicated in there, but I keep trying.

I just discovered that the performance of sender and receiver also depends on the interpacket times of the sender ...

(remember I mentioned before that the sender sends a packet every millisecond while the jammer transmits nonstop (actually the jammer sends nonstop SHR PHR SHR PHR SHR PHR ...))

... The performance gets worse when I increase the interpacket times at the sender from one millisecond to 10 ms and it drops to 0 % packet delivery rate when I set it to 100ms. Would this confirm that the issue must be in the clock recovery part?

However, if there is some lower level behavior, you should rather see damaged packet (such as a preamble in the payload) than only correct (sender) packets, right? When two preambles collide, then the stronger packet is received, if packet and preamble collide then the first packet should be damaged, in the best case containing symbols from the stronger (second) packet at some point.

I guess so, but I think its rather going to be nonsence symbols due to different clock recoveries...!?

best
B

Zitat von "Matthias Wilhelm" <address@hidden>:

Hmm,

there is a clock recovery block (gr.clock_recovery_mm_ff) that may lock to the stronger signal. Maybe you can find a way to stop it from changing things after you found an SFD, and turn it on again after the packet. I don't know what the block is doing exactly, but changing its parameter at runtime might have such an effect.

However, if there is some lower level behavior, you should rather see damaged packet (such as a preamble in the payload) than only correct (sender) packets, right? When two preambles collide, then the stronger packet is received, if packet and preamble collide then the first packet should be damaged, in the best case containing symbols from the stronger (second) packet at some point.

--Matthias

Am 23.02.2012 um 12:29 schrieb address@hidden:

Hi,

Quote "you can modify the receiver to just continue receiving anyway"

This is already done within the packet_sink by saying

if (min_threshold < d_threshold or true)

hence as soon as the receiver got into the decode_chips loop, it should stay there! ((c == 0xff) should never hapen!)

couldn't there be something in some lower level influenceing this behavior? I need to figure out what mechanism it is, that enables the increase in packet delivery rate between sender and receiver.

any suggestions?
best regards and thanks again

B







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