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Re: font substitution


From: Fred Kiefer
Subject: Re: font substitution
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 23:20:48 +0200
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Yen-Ju Chen wrote:
> On 8/12/07, Fred Kiefer <fredkiefer@gmx.de> wrote:
>> Yen-Ju Chen wrote:
>>> On 8/12/07, Yen-Ju Chen <yjchenx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 8/12/07, Fred Kiefer <fredkiefer@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>> I tried both the AR PL fonts and they seem to work for me. The problem
>>>>> you reported in the other mail was when creating the character set, not
>>>>> when checking if a character was included. Perhaps you could send me
>>>>> your test file. At the moment I am not able to reproduce the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Excluding some fonts from the check wont be an option as people may want
>>>>> to use this fonts anyway and then we have the same problem. We really
>>>>> need to find out, what is going wrong here.
>>>>>
>>>>> And GNUstep should be able to support all Unicode characters, if not we
>>>>> need to change this. From looking at the code I see no limitation.
>>>>   Here is the text I used. It is in UTF-8 encoding.
>>>>   You need a Chinese font (AR PL...)
>>>>   and another font which has better coverage than usual,
>>>>   probably one of the DejaVu font for a row of symbol in the bottom.
>>>   I check the fonts again.
>>>   The one in question is "AR PL ZenKai Uni.nfont".
>>>   It shows a "Critical Error" of NSCharacterSet panel and
>>>   and an exception in terminal:
>>>   " NSImage: compositeToPoint:fromRect:operation: failed due to
>>>     NSInternalInconsistencyException: Cannot find stored representation"
>>>
>>>   If you want to try, there is an application in Etoile:
>>>   Etoile/Services/User/Typewriter/
>>>   (Well, you also need Etoile/Frameworks/OgreKit, which need oniguruma 
>>> library).
>>>   You can create a new document, choose "Edit"->"Characters...".
>>>   It is a panel allowing you to see all of the glyphs from a chosen font.
>>>   When you choose "ZenKai", the exception raises.
>>>   Or you can use Etoile/Services/User/FontManager/ (no dependency).
>>>   It has the same result.
>>>   I have to say a bad font can be anywhere.
>>>
>> Thank you for all these advices. I was able to reproduce and understand
>> the flipping of the font. It happens when a font without an explicit set
>> matrix gets replaced by an explicit matrix. This is rather strange and
>> most likely wrong. To work around this problem I now use a font manager
>> method, which in the end does exactly what you suggested. This way has
>> the benefit that when ever we improve the code in NSFontManager the font
>> substitution will also improve.
> 
>   That sounds great !!
> 
>> Even with all your help I was not able to reproduce the NSCharacterSet
>> problem. Is it possible that this only happens with a certain version of
>> Freetype? I seem to have libfreetype.so.6.3.16 on my SuSE 10.2 system.
> 
>   Hmm... It is possible. I use Ubuntu 6.10/PPC.
>   I have to check what version of freetype on the system.
>   But what surprises me is that NSFont can get the correct numberOfGlyphs.
>   So it may be something unrelated to NSFont, but glyph rendering.
> 
>   By the way, could you add a user default for -gui or -back,
>   such as NSPreferredFonts,
>   so that users can easily specify their preferred fonts ?

Oops, I thought I did that already. It should be NSPreferredFonts, but I
never tried it myself :-(




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