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Re: Keys when menu-bar is active?
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Simon Josefsson |
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Re: Keys when menu-bar is active? |
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Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:29:41 +0100 |
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"Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu/address@hidden> writes:
>> * When scrolling down, scrolling doesn't stop when the end of the
>> scrollbar is reached.
>
> You mean it only stops when the last char of the buffer is at the very top
> of the screen. I don't think it's a feature.
The "thumb" stops when the last line is shown on screen, but the
scrolling doesn't stop until the last char is at the top of the
screen, yes.
>> * The scrolling bar changes size depending on where you are in the
>> buffer, it seems to depend on how many lines are visible on the
>> screen (i.e. long lines change things).
>
> It reflects he number of chars visible compared to the total number of chars.
> That's pretty standard (Xaw with xterm does the same except it's based
> on lines instead of chars. Since Emacs doesn't keep track of the number
> of lines, it would be costly to recompute it all the time).
The Xaw programs I've used (mostly xterm though) doesn't behave like
Emacs, so the experience is a little different.
>> * Due to the changing size, you can't use it to reliably indicate
>> how many lines are above you and how many lines below you.
>
> I'm not sure I understand. It does reliably indicate something else.
Yes, ok. Since it doesn't indicate the same thing as in other
programs using Xaw widgets, it is not inutive what it does indicate.
>> * The scroll-one-line-at-a-time feature (invoked if you press
>> mouse-1 or mouse-3 near the top of the scroll bar?) doesn't
>> scroll continously (click on it a few times and it wraps back
>> from where it started).
>
> It's a bug I haven't been abloe to track down (yet).
Thanks for looking at it.
>> * Scroll-one-line-at-a-time doesn't move the cursor (ordinary
>> scrolling does).
>
> That's not related directly to the scrollbar. Same thing happens
> with M-v and C-v. You want something like scroll-in-place.
Maybe it was because scroll-one-line-at-a-time didn't recenter the
screen, if it does it should also move the point.
>> * Scroll-one-line-at-a-time behaves "jumpy" at the end of the
>> buffer.
>
> That's a bug.
>
> I have a patch that fixes this bug and that fixes the size of the
> thumb (because the bug is directly related to the difficulty of
> working around Xaw3d's (and Motif's) insistence on not handling
> a variable-sized thumb satisfactorily. Xaw handles it just fine).
>
> I don't find it better, tho.
I think all my issues would be taken care of GTK support in Emacs, so
I don't think fixing the Xaw widgets should have very high priority.
- Keys when menu-bar is active?, Pavel JanÃk, 2002/01/20
- Re: Keys when menu-bar is active?, Jason Rumney, 2002/01/20
- Re: Keys when menu-bar is active?, Simon Josefsson, 2002/01/21
- Re: Keys when menu-bar is active?, Stefan Monnier, 2002/01/22
- Re: Keys when menu-bar is active?,
Simon Josefsson <=
- Re: Keys when menu-bar is active?, Eli Zaretskii, 2002/01/23
- Re: Keys when menu-bar is active?, Stefan Monnier, 2002/01/24
- Re: Keys when menu-bar is active?, Eli Zaretskii, 2002/01/25
- Re: Keys when menu-bar is active?, Simon Josefsson, 2002/01/25
- Re: Keys when menu-bar is active?, Stefan Monnier, 2002/01/21
- Re: Keys when menu-bar is active?, Simon Josefsson, 2002/01/21
- Re: Keys when menu-bar is active?, Richard Stallman, 2002/01/22
Re: Keys when menu-bar is active?, Richard Stallman, 2002/01/21