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Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows
From: |
Stefan Monnier |
Subject: |
Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows |
Date: |
24 Aug 2004 15:58:25 -0400 |
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Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 |
> Ok, I believe we think the same way. What I want to do is just add some
> things to make it more easy to get started using Emacs for an ms windows
> user:
> 1) Gnuserv is loaded
> 2) Some windows specific printing entries to the menus since printing
> otherwise tends to be a problem when you start with Emacs on ms windows. I
> also remove the unix-related printing entries from the menus because they do
> not work or do not work as you expect them to. Of course I make this as
> customization options.
> 3) I also offer some keyboard tweaks (CUA-mode, swbuff.el tighed to C-tab)
> that can be good for an ms windows user. It is of course also in this case
> very important that they are customization options.
> 4) recentf.el are also added, most ms windows programs has something like
> this.
> If no one has a good objection I will load things from default.el then.
> I will do this by loading one file only from default.el to not clutter
> default.el.
[ I think changes to the default should be done in Emacs proper rather than
in packages of Emacs. So I basically disagree with all those changes
since they are not intrinsically bound to your package. I might agree to
changing some of those defaults, but I think we should clearly separate
the packaging from the user-preferences. I.e. keep things as vanilla as
possible. ]
- If printing doesn't work right out of the box, it should be fixed directly
in Emacs. Fixing it in your package is a bad solution.
- I don't understand exactly what you mean by "...that they are customization
options".
- Assuming a user disagrees with your choice, how is she to revert
your changes in her .emacs file?
let's say I start your Emacs and see "gee he turned on CUA-mode, that sucks
for me". What do I do? Normally, to turn CUA off, a user should do
(CUA-mode -1) or you use custom. Your site-start.el or default.el changes
should correctly react to either one of those things.
Stefan
- Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows, (continued)
- Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows, Frank Schmitt, 2004/08/07
- Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows, Eli Zaretskii, 2004/08/07
- Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows, Lennart Borgman, 2004/08/23
- Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows, Stefan Monnier, 2004/08/23
- Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows, Lennart Borgman, 2004/08/24
- Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows, Stefan Monnier, 2004/08/24
- Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows, Lennart Borgman, 2004/08/24
- Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows,
Stefan Monnier <=
- Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows, Lennart Borgman, 2004/08/24
- Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows, Stefan, 2004/08/24
- Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows, Lennart Borgman, 2004/08/26
- Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows, David Kastrup, 2004/08/26
- Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows, Stefan Monnier, 2004/08/26
- Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows, Lennart Borgman, 2004/08/26
- Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows, Eli Zaretskii, 2004/08/25
- Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows, Peter 'Luna' Runestig, 2004/08/25
- Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows, Lennart Borgman, 2004/08/25
- Re: Emacs Installer for MS Windows, Eli Zaretskii, 2004/08/25