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Re: finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text


From: Kim F. Storm
Subject: Re: finger-pointer curser as default for mouse-face text
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:31:52 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux)

Stefan <address@hidden> writes:

>> I found a simpler solution which works really well, as it provides the
>> fallback directly on mouse-1 itself:
>
>> Measure the time between the mouse-1 down event and the up event, and
>> if it less than 300 ms (configurable), follow the link, else do what
>> mouse-1 normally does.
>
> Sounds like a terrible idea to me.  Working with X11-over-DSL means that
> timing is rather unreliable.  Same thing with heavy-swapping (as happens
> when a I do `tla star-merge' :-( ).

True, but the worst thing that can happen (if you use a positive
value) is that the click sets the point rather than follows the link
-- so if things are slow, just click again (and hope for the best) or
use mouse-2.

I don't think that's terrible at all.

And you can always set the variable to t, meaning that you will need
to drag to set point.

And on a local system, it works really well!!!

>
> And even if the timing could be measured accurately, I don't find the "hold
> the mouse button longer" to be intuitive at all for "move point".

Press harder to make the glue stick :-)

Personally I find "drag to set point" much less intuitive which is why
I'm looking for a better solution.

> I think we're trying to squeeze too much info in those events.  I'm quite
> happy with the distinction between click and drag but I don't think we
> should go further than that.

We are trying to find a simple(!) way to let mouse-1 do its normal thing
in the rare situation (except for David :-) where the user wants to set
point in the middle of a link.

Providing the "long click" as a user option is trivial (it is 3 lines
of code and it is already done), and personally, I find it quite
intuitive.

Whether we want to turn it on by default (with or without timeout) is
another matter.

-- 
Kim F. Storm <address@hidden> http://www.cua.dk





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