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Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual
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Stefan Monnier |
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Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual |
Date: |
Sat, 11 Dec 2004 14:02:12 -0500 |
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Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) |
> What is the purpose of the GFDL? I quote from the licence: "The purpose
> of this License is to make a manual .... "free" in the sense of
> freedom: to assure everyone the effective freedom to copy and
> redistribute it, with or without modifying it, either commercially or
> noncommercially." Since the XEmacs team's freedom here is ineffective,
> the GFDL is, on its own terms, broken.
I have no real opinion on the GFDL, tho just because of the turmoil it has
caused and is still causing, I guess I'm rather annoyed by it.
But I think that this "freedom" argument is flawed. "Freedom" means
something different to everyone, so it's not a very good way to convince
other people. Especially in the context of the Free Software movement,
I understand "free" to apply to the program itself, not its user:
the program (or the doc) itself is "free", can't be harnessed/hijacked by
anyone. It quite directly implies that people aren't "free" to use it as
they please.
I don't see any benefit from using the GFDL over the GPL that would justify
the downside of preventing the XEmacs people from using our documentation.
[ Unless we consider that as an upside, but I really don't see any good
reason why we should be so antagonizing. ] Similarly, the licensing problems
it can cause when extracting docs and doc-skeletons out of code
is worrisome.
Stefan
- Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual, Ben Wing, 2004/12/09
- Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual, Richard Stallman, 2004/12/10
- RE: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual, Ben Wing, 2004/12/10
- Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual, Alan Mackenzie, 2004/12/11
- Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual,
Stefan Monnier <=
- Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual, Karl Fogel, 2004/12/11
- Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual, David Kastrup, 2004/12/12
- Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual, Brian Palmer, 2004/12/12
- Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual, Matthew Mundell, 2004/12/12
- Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual, David Kastrup, 2004/12/12
- Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual, Robert J. Chassell, 2004/12/11
- Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual, Karl Fogel, 2004/12/12
- Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual, Robert J. Chassell, 2004/12/12
- Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual, David Kastrup, 2004/12/12
- Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual, Florian Weimer, 2004/12/12