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Re: ATSUI support on Carbon Emacs


From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
Subject: Re: ATSUI support on Carbon Emacs
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:03:02 +0900
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>>>>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:26:54 +0100, David Reitter <address@hidden> said:

> If you do set-frame-font with one of the installed fonts that show
> up in a completion buffer, you sometimes get an error:

I think this was fixed by yesterday's change.  Please test with the
latest one.

> -apple-helvetica ce-medium-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-140-mac-centraleurroman
> can't be set, instead, it just uses the default Monaco font.

This also happens on X11.  Suppose we have

  -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso10646-1
and
  -sony-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-150-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1

but not for

  -sony-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-150-75-75-c-80-iso10646-1 .

Then, 

  emacs -q -fn -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso10646-1

followed by

  (set-frame-font "-sony-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-150-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1")

fails to set the second font.  If the first invocation is just "emacs
-q", then set-frame-font succeeds.

> Furthermore, it seems that the fonts don't exhibit the same spacing
> as in other applications. For example, a Helvetica Medium 12pt font
> is much narrower as for example in Apple Mail, where this is the
> default font (I think).  I wouldn't say that this looks bad, it's
> just not conforming to the standard.

I don't find much difference.  Of course, there are some differences
in integral/fractional metrics, without/with typographical features
such as kerning.  Is the difference more than those?

                                     YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
                                address@hidden




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