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Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed
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Paul Pogonyshev |
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Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed |
Date: |
Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:46:24 +0200 |
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Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >> Interesting. I guess that could be considered as a bug.
> >> How do other X apps handle this problem?
>
> > I use KDE. There I have the Russian (winkeys) layout added with "Include
> > latin layout" option turned on. This gives this command line:
>
> > setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout us,ru -variant ,winkeys
>
> > After this, most applications handle, say `Сtrl-Ц' just like `Ctrl-W' (`Ц'
> > and `W' are on the same key.) However, Firefox doesn't, for some reason
> > (which pisses me off a lot, BTW) and so doesn't Emacs... No idea why.
>
> When you say "most applications" does that only include KDE (Qt) apps,
> or does it also include apps that use completely different toolkits?
> I guess it also includes other apps, right?
>
> If so, I think this behavior of Emacs should be considered as a bug.
Not only KDE applications, no. For instance, it works in Gaim (pure GTK+,
AFAIK) and Galeon (GNOME.)
> >> > So yes, let me rephrase. I wish `Mode_switch' would deactivate the
> >> > current
> >> > input method while pressed in Emacs. Or so that I could turn such
> >> > feature
> >> > on with something as simple as `setq ... t'.
> >> Is that what the Mode_switch key does in other X apps? I.e. what does the
> >> Mode_switch key do, "normally"?
> > Yes, if you use `setxkbmap -option grp:switch'.
>
> Then Emacs should do the same. I suspect it's the same bug.
Yes, if not for internal input methods, it at least must honor my global
settings
for `xkb' behavior.
> > Maybe if you could make it behave like most other apps do (and unlike
> > Firefox), that is enough. Than I would be able to just use global layout
> > switching and not internal Emacs input methods. However, making it work
> > with internal methods would be even better for me, since I like separate
> > input methods for each buffer etc., which is impossible with global layout
> > switching. (Well, there are some horrible hacks I was privately given
> > links to, but I'm not diving into something as complicated as that.)
>
> Yes, that makes sense as well.
> So you'd want hitting Mode_switch to toggle the LEIM input method or would
> you want pressing to turn it off and releasing to turn it back on?
It seems in `xkb' Mode_switch disables alternative groups only, i.e. it won't
start typing in Russian if I hold Mode_switch while using the English layout.
So, if you manage to implement something similar in Emacs, it should probably
behave like this (i.e. deactivate any non-default input method) for consistency.
Paul
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, (continued)
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Paul Pogonyshev, 2005/11/25
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Stefan Monnier, 2005/11/25
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Paul Pogonyshev, 2005/11/25
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Aidan Kehoe, 2005/11/25
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Paul Pogonyshev, 2005/11/26
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Tomas Zerolo, 2005/11/27
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Eugene Vlasov, 2005/11/26
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Paul Pogonyshev, 2005/11/26
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Juri Linkov, 2005/11/28
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Stefan Monnier, 2005/11/26
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed,
Paul Pogonyshev <=
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Stefan Monnier, 2005/11/27
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Paul Pogonyshev, 2005/11/27
- Mode_switch in Emacs (was: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed), Stefan Monnier, 2005/11/27
- Re: Mode_switch in Emacs (was: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed), Juri Linkov, 2005/11/28
- Re: Mode_switch in Emacs, Stefan Monnier, 2005/11/28
- Re: Mode_switch in Emacs, Juri Linkov, 2005/11/28
- Re: Mode_switch in Emacs, Stefan Monnier, 2005/11/29
- Re: Mode_switch in Emacs, Paul Pogonyshev, 2005/11/29
- Re: Mode_switch in Emacs, Juri Linkov, 2005/11/29
- Re: wish: right alt/meta to switch keyboard layout while pressed, Juri Linkov, 2005/11/28