Re: commands invoked by the mouse -> commands invoked from the menu bar

[Luc Teirlinck]

Lennart Borgman wrote:

   In "(emacs) Visiting" there is written

       commands invoked with the mouse (by clicking on the menu bar or tool
       bar) use the toolkit's standard File Selection dialog instead of
       prompting for the file name in the minibuffer.

   Should it not be like this instead:

       commands invoked from the menu bar (from the keyboard or with the
       mouse) use the toolkit's standard File Selections dialog ...

I can not check, since I use the Lucid toolkit, so I _always_ get
asked in the minibuffer for filenames (fortunately).

I would expect the current text to be correct.  Does the alternative
text you give describe what _actually_ happens?  I do believe that
this would be a misfeature since if the user invoked the menu bar with
the keyboard, he probably prefers to keep using the keyboard and the
minibuffer.  If the user did not use a mouse to invoke a command, then
there is no evidence that the user is actually able to use a mouse.
At first view (I normally avoid having to use them) some of these File
Selection dialogs seem inconvenient (at best) to use without a mouse.

Does the alternative you describe even happen for `emacs -nw', the
_usual_ situation under which people invoke the menu bar from the
keyboard?  That would surprise me very much.

Sincerely,

Luc.