Re[2]: Multiple major modes

[Eric M. Ludlam]

>>> Richard Stallman <address@hidden> seems to think that:
>    The function overload mechanism is also a feature I use in semantic.
>    Most features that work in multiple major modes today provide a
>    variable where you can put a symbol that is a function that would then
>    provide some mode-specific functionality.
>
>    My semantic tool has hundreds of these functions, so I abstracted the
>    concept up so that the implementations could be declarative, instead
>    of programmatic. 
>
>I really don't like the idea of function overloads.  This mechanism
>shares the drawbacks of advice: that a function doesn't do what its
>definition says.
>
>                     It also makes it easy to make most functions
>    overridable, which helps avoid forcing users to use advice when
>    customizing my tool.
>
>It is easy to replace advising with another similar mechanism,
>but it doesn't solve the problem.
>
>It seems to me that there is no need for this.  Calling a variable
>with funcall should do the same job.  That way, the call _shows_
>that the function isn't fixed.

The use syntax of an overloadable function is similar to programs that
call `indent-for-tab-command', or `indent-according-to-mode', but
there is no restriction forcing `according-to-mode' as part of the
function name.

The difference between writing an `indent-according-to-mode'
function and an overload function is that you don't have to write the
body of the function or, in the specific case of
`indent-according-to-mode', you could write a body that wraps up an
:overload token similar to the way `indent-according-to-mode' wraps
the `funcall'.

Anyway, I think these overload functions are more like methods which
dispatch on major mode instead of advice.  You can advise any
function, but you can only overload something created with
`define-overload', so it is known via syntactic sugar instead of a
funcall call.

When it comes right down to it though, this is not needed for multiple
major modes where one of the concerns is buffer-local vs mode-local
variables, and I don't want to imply that I think it is needed.  It is
only a feature which I feel has enhanced the maintainability of my
code, and has helped others understand and discover how to extend my
tools for different modes.

Eric

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