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Re: Old-style backquotes in cc-vars.el
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Stefan Monnier |
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Re: Old-style backquotes in cc-vars.el |
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Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:27:00 -0400 |
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Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
>> cc-vars uses a mix of old-style a new-style backquotes.
> I don't think it does.
The warning indicates that Emacs sees old-style backquotes, aqnd I'm pretty
sure there are new style backquotes as well, so I'm pretty sure you're wrong.
> He wouldn't knowingly have put in old-style BQs as late as 2001.
Maybe he did it knowingly: he's using nested backquotes and IIRC they didn't
always work correctly in older versions of Emacs when used with new-style
backquotes. Actually IIRC the problem was with nested new-style commas
(where the second would not be recognized as new-style) which indeed do
appear in that code.
> I'm not sure whether the rules for nested backquotes are clearly laid
> out anywhere.
The problem is not about nesting but about new-style vs old-style: the
detailed rule about which is which is indeed only specified implicitly in
the source code.
> I think they're formally ambiguous (i.e., RTFS). I tried
> replacing "`(` (radio" with both
> "`( (` (radio" (explicitly putting in an "old-style" BQ)
> , and
> "`` (radio" (replacing the alleged "old-style" BQ with a
> "new-style" one)
> , but each of these generated results different from the original
> (checked with macroexpand).
You need to fix the ,(, part accordingly.
> So would I. ;-(
Thien-Thi might be a good start.
> Who is the bytecomp expert, again? Could we possibly ask him about the
> semantics of `(` (radio ?
It's (\` (\` (radio
> Possibly, the analysis in lread.c needs to be done more rigorously.
I have no idea what that means.
Stefan