Re: emacs chooses wrong bold font, again

[Glenn Morris]

Kenichi Handa wrote:

>> The bold font is correct again now (Emacs from 2 days ago gets it wrong).
>
> Strange.  I didn't change any code related to font-selection
> in these two days.

Perhaps I've been doing something dumb, though I don't know what it
could be. Anyway, bold now looks ok. Sorry for the noise on that
front.

>> I noticed that Emacs 22 and current CVS choose slightly different
>> fonts for fixed and variable pitch. Fixed looks smaller and a bit
>> uglier now. Variable just looks a bit different.

Due I think to some very recent changes, CVS now uses Bitstream Vera
Sans (Mono) for variable (fixed) pitch. It looks nice, better than in 22.

The only remaining issue I have is with italic fonts.
I was using this with 22::

emacs -Q
(face-spec-set 'italic
                   '((t (:slant italic :underline nil :family "helvetica"))))
(face-spec-set 'bold-italic
                   '((t (:slant italic :underline nil
                               :weight bold :family "helvetica"))))

and getting:
-Adobe-Helvetica-Medium-O-Normal--14-100-100-100-P-78-ISO8859-1
-Adobe-Helvetica-Medium-O-Normal--14-100-100-100-P-78-ISO8859-1

with CVS, I get a worse looking:
-urw-nimbus sans l-regular-i-normal--14-101-100-100-p-77-iso8859-1
-urw-nimbus sans l-bold-i-normal--14-101-100-100-p-81-iso8859-1

Perhaps I'm just supposed to specify fonts differently now?

> I tried that too, and get the same result as Emacs 22.
> Please tell me your system (sorry if I asked it before).

This is an up-to-date Debian testing system.

> (1) Start Emacs as usual.

I'm using the above emacs -Q followed by face-spec-set.

> (2) Load the attached file "temp.el".
>
> (3) M-x temp RET
>
> And show me the result of *Help* buffer.

xfont-list: -misc-helvetica-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
ftfont-list: -misc-helvetica-*-iso8859-1
list: -misc-helvetica-medium-*-normal-*-iso8859-1
xfont-list: -misc-helvetica-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-ascii-0
ftfont-list: -misc-helvetica-*-ascii-0
list: -misc-helvetica-medium-*-normal-*-ascii-0
xfont-list: -*-helvetica-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--8-*-75-75-p-46-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--34-*-100-100-p-176-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--25-*-100-100-p-130-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--24-*-75-75-p-130-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--20-*-100-100-p-100-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--18-*-75-75-p-98-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--17-*-100-100-p-88-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--14-*-75-75-p-77-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-p-76-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-*-75-75-p-67-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--11-*-100-100-p-56-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-*-75-75-p-56-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-narrow--*-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--8-*-75-75-p-47-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--34-*-100-100-p-176-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--25-*-100-100-p-130-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--24-*-75-75-p-130-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--20-*-100-100-p-98-iso8859-1
  ...
ftfont-list: -*-helvetica-*-iso8859-1
  -Adobe-Helvetica-normal-oblique-normal-*-18-*-iso8859-1
  -Adobe-Helvetica-bold-normal-normal-*-18-*-iso8859-1
  -Adobe-Helvetica-bold-oblique-normal-*-12-*-iso8859-1
  -Adobe-Helvetica-normal-normal-normal-*-18-*-iso8859-1
  -Adobe-Helvetica-bold-normal-normal-*-34-*-iso8859-1
  -Adobe-Helvetica-normal-normal-normal-*-17-*-iso8859-1
  -Adobe-Helvetica-bold-oblique-normal-*-20-*-iso8859-1
  -Adobe-Helvetica-bold-normal-normal-*-17-*-iso8859-1
  -Adobe-Helvetica-normal-normal-normal-*-24-*-iso8859-1
  -Adobe-Helvetica-normal-oblique-normal-*-8-*-iso8859-1
  -Adobe-Helvetica-bold-normal-normal-*-14-*-iso8859-1
  -Adobe-Helvetica-normal-oblique-normal-*-10-*-iso8859-1
  -Adobe-Helvetica-bold-normal-normal-*-11-*-iso8859-1
  -Adobe-Helvetica-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-iso8859-1
  -Adobe-Helvetica-bold-normal-normal-*-20-*-iso8859-1
  -Adobe-Helvetica-normal-normal-normal-*-14-*-iso8859-1
  -Adobe-Helvetica-normal-normal-normal-*-11-*-iso8859-1
  -Adobe-Helvetica-bold-oblique-normal-*-34-*-iso8859-1
  -Adobe-Helvetica-normal-oblique-normal-*-17-*-iso8859-1
  ...
list: -*-helvetica-medium-*-normal-*-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-i-normal--*-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--*-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--10-*-75-75-p-57-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--11-*-100-100-p-57-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--12-*-75-75-p-67-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--14-*-100-100-p-78-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--14-*-75-75-p-78-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--17-*-100-100-p-88-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--18-*-75-75-p-98-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--20-*-100-100-p-98-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--24-*-75-75-p-130-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--25-*-100-100-p-130-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--34-*-100-100-p-176-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--8-*-75-75-p-47-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--10-*-75-75-p-56-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--11-*-100-100-p-56-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-*-75-75-p-67-iso8859-1
  -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-p-76-iso8859-1
  ...
sort-by: -*-helvetica-medium-italic-normal-*-14-*-iso8859-1
  x:-adobe-helvetica-medium-i-normal--*-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1
open: -adobe-helvetica-medium-i-normal--*-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1
  x:-urw-nimbus sans l-regular-i-normal--14-101-100-100-p-77-iso8859-1
xfont-list: -misc-Monospace-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
ftfont-list: -misc-Monospace-*-iso8859-1
list: -misc-Monospace-medium-r-normal-*-iso8859-1
xfont-list: -misc-Monospace-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-ascii-0
ftfont-list: -misc-Monospace-*-ascii-0
list: -misc-Monospace-medium-r-normal-*-ascii-0
xfont-list: -*-Monospace-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
ftfont-list: -*-Monospace-*-iso8859-1
  -bitstream-Bitstream Vera Sans Mono-normal-oblique-normal-*-m-0-iso8859-1
  -bitstream-Bitstream Vera Sans Mono-normal-normal-normal-*-m-0-iso8859-1
  -bitstream-Bitstream Vera Sans Mono-bold-normal-normal-*-m-0-iso8859-1
  -bitstream-Bitstream Vera Sans Mono-bold-oblique-normal-*-m-0-iso8859-1
list: -*-Monospace-medium-r-normal-*-iso8859-1
  -bitstream-Bitstream Vera Sans Mono-normal-normal-normal-*-m-0-iso8859-1
open: -bitstream-Bitstream Vera Sans Mono-normal-normal-normal-*-m-0-iso8859-1
  xft:-bitstream-Bitstream Vera Sans 
Mono-normal-normal-normal-*-14-*-m-0-iso8859-1
xfont-list: -misc-Sans-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
ftfont-list: -misc-Sans-*-iso8859-1
list: -misc-Sans-medium-r-normal-*-iso8859-1
xfont-list: -misc-Sans-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-ascii-0
ftfont-list: -misc-Sans-*-ascii-0
list: -misc-Sans-medium-r-normal-*-ascii-0
xfont-list: -*-Sans-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
ftfont-list: -*-Sans-*-iso8859-1
  -bitstream-Bitstream Vera Sans-normal-oblique-normal-*-0-iso8859-1
  -bitstream-Bitstream Vera Sans-bold-normal-normal-*-0-iso8859-1
  -bitstream-Bitstream Vera Sans-bold-oblique-normal-*-0-iso8859-1
  -bitstream-Bitstream Vera Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-0-iso8859-1
list: -*-Sans-medium-r-normal-*-iso8859-1
  -bitstream-Bitstream Vera Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-0-iso8859-1
open: -bitstream-Bitstream Vera Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-0-iso8859-1
  xft:-bitstream-Bitstream Vera Sans-normal-normal-normal-*-14-*-0-iso8859-1
list: -misc-fixed-medium-*-normal--*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--13-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-o-normal--13-*-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--10-*-100-100-c-60-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-100-100-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-*-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-*-75-75-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-*-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-100-100-c-100-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-*-75-75-c-100-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--6-*-75-75-c-40-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-100-100-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--7-*-75-75-c-50-iso8859-1
  -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--8-*-100-100-c-50-iso8859-1
  ...
sort-by: -misc-fixed-medium-italic-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1
  x:-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1