Re: Emacs vista build failures

[tomas]

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On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 09:00:19PM -0400, Barry Fishman wrote:
> Richard M Stallman <address@hidden> writes:
> >     For example, one should ultimately be able to do things like have
> >     GnuCash use Emacs/TTY code to display in text windows.
> >
> > It is a useful goal.  Do you want to work on trying to design a way to
> > do this?  Preferably it should not involve linking parts of Emacs with
> > GNUcash.  Too unmodular.  Better to have them communicate somehow.
> 
> It is a matter of where you draw the module boundaries [...]

> Does integration of Emacs into the GNU Desktop mean that Emacs just
> starts picking up Gnome and dbus facilities, and dropping portability
> concerns, or does it becomes a source of components and ideas that can
> be used in other applications.  Otherwise I am afraid that the "make GNU
> look like Windows" people will bury us in the sort of fragile C++
> monoliths like Firefox, that leave most everyone out.

Note that the basic architecture of Firefox is very much parallel to
that of Emacs: a C[++] core and a scripting layer on top to write most
of the user functionality in (Javascript + XML). Not that I am a big fan
of Javascript (even less of XML), I'd take Lisp over it any day, and the
sheer bloatyness of Firefox gives me the feeping creeps, but just to
point that out.

> I think freedom is not just having source, and the permission to make
> changes and distribute them.  Its also about it being straightforward to
> actually modify applications [...]

Amen. Also called the "low hacktivation energy".

Regards
- -- tomás
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