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Re: Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32?


From: Lennart Borgman (gmail)
Subject: Re: Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32?
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:12:02 +0200
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Phil Jackson wrote:
> "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <address@hidden> writes:
> 
>>>> Why not try to take that up with the GNU/Linux developers?
>>> The simple answer is because the GNU/Linux (or rather, Unix in general)
>>> architecture does not operate like Windows does with respect to this
>>> tight level of integration.  Even getting the GNOME and KDE guys to use
>>> the same place would not solve the problem
>> They should come together and donate their common solution for trash can
>> handling as something that comes with the system.
> 
> But who gets to decide what the 'system' is? I use a very basic tiled
> window manager and no desktop environment. All of my file manipulation
> happens in the shell or dired (whichever I'm nearest at the time). So,
> do rm and emacs need to know about it? Does unlink() need to know about
> it? The filesystem? The kernel itself?

As I explained in a previous message, what I propose is an interface for
trash can handling that always comes with the system. There need not be
any implementation behind that interface. The deleting routine should
ask the interface.

Ideally of cause an implementation behind the interface should be there
too in case you do not have a very, very special need to avoid it.

> One can make assumptions about a Windows system (like every user using
> explorer.exe), but not really about a GNU/Linux system.

Is not that then a shortcoming of GNU/Linux compared with Windows?

> Cheers,
> Phil




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