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Re: please make line-move-visual nil
From: |
Stephen J. Turnbull |
Subject: |
Re: please make line-move-visual nil |
Date: |
Mon, 25 May 2009 11:26:19 +0900 |
David Reitter writes:
> You didn't give any reason to support your view.
Isn't that more contentious that you really mean? It's hard to
express reasons for this kind of thing, and in any case, a change of
defaults should shoulder the burden of explanation. It's better to be
conservative with respect to defaults.
> I believe line-move-visual should be t because in this mode of
> operation, cursor movement commands correspond most closely to the
> visual representation of the buffer.
Are we not human? Can we not understand more abstractions than the
two-dimensional image in front of our eyes? Maybe we should get rid
of all cursor movement commands in favor of visually-oriented search?
So unfortunately that explanation is so weak that it arrived in a
heart-lung machine. Emacs has *many* modes, and they *interact*. A
proper explanation would detail *for each and every* mode of Emacs why
the default ought to be changed.
For example in Python, assembler, picture, and FORTRAN modes, where
columns are significant, that should be defaulted to nil. In most
programmers' environments, long lines are relatively rare due to style
guidelines, and indentation is on the contrary universal and
significant. I would argue that in that general class of cases,
cursor motion should be logical, not visual, by default.
- RE: please make line-move-visual nil, (continued)
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Eli Zaretskii, 2009/05/24
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Miles Bader, 2009/05/25
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Chong Yidong, 2009/05/25
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, David Reitter, 2009/05/24
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Lennart Borgman, 2009/05/24
- RE: please make line-move-visual nil, Drew Adams, 2009/05/24
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, David Reitter, 2009/05/24
- RE: please make line-move-visual nil, Drew Adams, 2009/05/25
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil,
Stephen J. Turnbull <=
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Stefan Monnier, 2009/05/24
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2009/05/25
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Miles Bader, 2009/05/25
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Ulrich Mueller, 2009/05/25
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Miles Bader, 2009/05/25
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Richard M Stallman, 2009/05/25
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, David Kastrup, 2009/05/28
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Bastien, 2009/05/28
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, Werner LEMBERG, 2009/05/28
- Re: please make line-move-visual nil, rms, 2009/05/29