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RE: eval-after-load not harmful after all (Was: Re: Why js-2mode?)
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Drew Adams |
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RE: eval-after-load not harmful after all (Was: Re: Why js-2mode?) |
Date: |
Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:46:15 -0700 |
> I have no objection to use of `eval-after-load' in user or site files
> that are disabled by emacs -q. But `eval-after-load' in core files is
> like smoking in an elevator next to a pregnant woman. It's very
> convenient, maybe even "necessary", from the point of view of the
> user of the feature, but he doesn't bear the pain of debugging a
> Heisenbug that appears for the user of random-package-using-e-a-l.
>
> I note that all the advocates of e-a-l are package maintainers and UI
> types; all the deprecators are core. This is an inherent tension, and
> I think it should be resolved in favor of protecting the core.
Nothing wrong with "protecting the core".
The discussion was about the Elisp manual, whose target audience is not just
maintainers of the Emacs core. The help and guidance there are used by a variety
of programmer-users.
Again, there's nothing wrong with (a) giving a general guideline, and also (b)
explaining the issues and giving additional info about contexts where the
guideline might not be something you would want to follow. It's about furthering
understanding, not just rote learning of rules.
- Re: Why js2-mode in Emacs 23.2?, (continued)
- Re: Why js2-mode in Emacs 23.2?, Daniel Colascione, 2009/08/09
- Re: Why js2-mode in Emacs 23.2?, Carsten Dominik, 2009/08/10
- Re: Why js2-mode in Emacs 23.2?, Leo, 2009/08/10
- Re: Why js2-mode in Emacs 23.2?, CHENG Gao, 2009/08/10
- Re: Why js2-mode in Emacs 23.2?, Leo, 2009/08/10
- Re: Why js2-mode in Emacs 23.2?, Richard Riley, 2009/08/10
- eval-after-load not harmful after all (Was: Re: Why js-2mode?), Daniel Colascione, 2009/08/10
- RE: eval-after-load not harmful after all (Was: Re: Why js-2mode?), Drew Adams, 2009/08/10
- Re: eval-after-load not harmful after all, Stefan Monnier, 2009/08/10
- RE: eval-after-load not harmful after all (Was: Re: Why js-2mode?), Stephen J. Turnbull, 2009/08/10
- RE: eval-after-load not harmful after all (Was: Re: Why js-2mode?),
Drew Adams <=
- RE: eval-after-load not harmful after all (Was: Re: Why js-2mode?), Stephen J. Turnbull, 2009/08/11
- Re: eval-after-load not harmful after all, Stefan Monnier, 2009/08/11
- Re: eval-after-load not harmful after all, Leo, 2009/08/16
- Re: eval-after-load not harmful after all, Lennart Borgman, 2009/08/16
- Re: eval-after-load not harmful after all, Leo, 2009/08/17
- Re: eval-after-load not harmful after all, Lennart Borgman, 2009/08/17
- Re: eval-after-load not harmful after all, Leo, 2009/08/17
- Re: eval-after-load not harmful after all, Lennart Borgman, 2009/08/17
- Re: eval-after-load not harmful after all (Was: Re: Why js-2mode?), Lennart Borgman, 2009/08/10
- Re: eval-after-load not harmful after all (Was: Re: Why js-2mode?), Daniel Colascione, 2009/08/10