Re: Scrollbar thumbs

[grischka]

> > I don't see any dogma beyond the dogma of consistent design which is not
> > something a toolkit designer can be blamed for.
>
> It has nothing to do with consistent design.

Surely it has.

> > Also by saying "our problem" you already realized that is your problem and
> > not theirs.  In a free world, why should they cripple their code just to
> > save you from having to find the right solution within your own
> > program.  That would be two times wrong.
>
> We're not talking about crippling anybody's code other than ours.
> They specifically add code which has no effect for 99% of the clients
> and which prevents Emacs from working correctly.  Removing that code
> wouldn't cripple anyone.

Well, extra code that prevents clients from doing unwanted things exists 
all over the place in APIs and the point of such code is that it has no 
effect under normal usage.

And the consistency aspect of "normal usage" being defined is simply 
that widgets are there to provide a consistent look & feel across 
applications.  It seems inconsequent if on one hand you want to use 
a widget but on the other hand want to use it differently to 99% of 
the other clients.  Then you'd better invent your own.

--- grischka