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Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-bar on right b
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David Kastrup |
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Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX. |
Date: |
Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:39:54 +0100 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.92 (gnu/linux) |
Chong Yidong <address@hidden> writes:
> James Cloos <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> C> Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX.
>>
>> Ewww. Why, if may I ask?
>>
>> Way over on the right makes the scrollbar essentially useless (except,
>> of course, for putative buffers which are (will be) primarily r2l
>> and those times when the frame is split horizontally).
>>
>> It really needs to be near the action, and on landscape displays the
>> frames are typically wider than (most of) the text.
>
> I'm familiar with the advantages, but this battle was fought long ago.
Emacs is not occupied territory. Where it makes no sense, following the
herd is not necessary.
> Every graphical user interface created in the last X years puts the
> scroll bar on the right.
Emacs is not a graphical display application, but an input text oriented
system. JFTR, xterm has its scrollbar on the _left_.
> Try naming one other application on a modern GNU/Linux desktop that
> does the opposite by default---they don't exist.
xterm
> Beyond a certain point, conflicting with users' expectations does more
> harm than good.
Emacs has never had any qualms about conflicting with expectations where
this makes better sense.
--
David Kastrup
- Re: delete-selection-mode, (continued)
- Re: delete-selection-mode (was: Put scroll-bar on right by defaulton UNIX.), Chad Brown, 2010/03/19
- Re: delete-selection-mode (was: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX.), Stephen J. Turnbull, 2010/03/19
- Re: delete-selection-mode (was: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX.), Lennart Borgman, 2010/03/19
- Re: delete-selection-mode, Manoj Srivastava, 2010/03/21
- Re: delete-selection-mode, Glenn Morris, 2010/03/17
- Re: delete-selection-mode, Juri Linkov, 2010/03/17
Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX., Miles Bader, 2010/03/12
Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX.,
David Kastrup <=
Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX., Richard Stallman, 2010/03/13
Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX., Richard Riley, 2010/03/14
Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX., Richard Riley, 2010/03/14
Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX., Sean Sieger, 2010/03/14
Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX., David Kastrup, 2010/03/14
Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX., David De La Harpe Golden, 2010/03/14