Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX.

[Richard Riley]

David Kastrup <address@hidden> writes:

> Richard Riley <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> David Kastrup <address@hidden> writes:
>>
>>> Chong Yidong <address@hidden> writes:
>>>
>>>> James Cloos <address@hidden> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> C> Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ewww.  Why, if may I ask?
>>>>>
>>>>> Way over on the right makes the scrollbar essentially useless (except,
>>>>> of course, for putative buffers which are (will be) primarily r2l
>>>>> and those times when the frame is split horizontally).
>>>>>
>>>>> It really needs to be near the action, and on landscape displays the
>>>>> frames are typically wider than (most of) the text.
>>>>
>>>> I'm familiar with the advantages, but this battle was fought long ago.
>>>
>>> Emacs is not occupied territory.  Where it makes no sense, following the
>>> herd is not necessary.
>>>
>>>> Every graphical user interface created in the last X years puts the
>>>> scroll bar on the right.
>>>
>>> Emacs is not a graphical display application, but an input text oriented
>>> system.  JFTR, xterm has its scrollbar on the _left_.
>>
>> How silly.
>>
>> I, and most users I suspect, would want the scrollbar on the GUI
>> version in the same place as the HUGE majority for GUI "X"
>> applications. On the right.
>>
>> xterm is not a "GUI application" in any but the most pedantic minds.
>
> Neither is Emacs.  Both are focused about plain text input.

Indeed. But its X interface is still on a desktop next to other X
apps. The huge majority of whose scroll bars are on the right. It seems
almost a strange argument to be having.

And emacs is a scrollable UI - its an editor after all. Yes, you can
scroll xterm and urvt etc I know, but its not the same thing at all.

The X interface to Emacs should comply with the huge majority of
neighbouring apps. And thats the scroll bar on the right.

All IMO of course ;) But clearly also in the minds of other X authors.