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Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas |
Date: |
Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:57:55 +0300 |
> From: Óscar Fuentes <address@hidden>
> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 02:08:43 +0200
>
> Second, whatever mechanism Emacs uses for memory management, it is
> usable from C++ as well (for dealing with Emacs objects, of course.)
How can you be sure?
Emacs overrides the default `malloc' and `sbrk' functions, at least on
some platforms, and replaces them with its own implementations. Those
implementations relocate large objects on the heap behind the scenes,
whenever Emacs sees fit. I'm not sure this is "usable from C++" out
of the box. C++ objects that hold pointers to arrays might suddenly
find those pointers invalidated by the above-mentioned relocation.
We had quite a few bugs caused by that in Emacs, even though the issue
is well known and there are special protocols in Emacs sources to
follow in order to avoid that. See, for example these messages
regarding one such bug:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2010-02/msg00666.html
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2010-02/msg00702.html
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2010-03/msg00088.html
If you want to see the fix, it's revno 99601 on the trunk.
> Is it better to not try it, then?
No. But you need to be careful when you are choosing your tools of
trade -- they need to allow you to concentrate on the important
issues, instead of wasting energy on obstacles that have nothing to do
with the problems you intend to solve.
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, (continued)
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/07/15
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, Óscar Fuentes, 2010/07/15
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/07/16
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, Óscar Fuentes, 2010/07/16
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/07/16
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, Óscar Fuentes, 2010/07/16
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/07/16
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, Óscar Fuentes, 2010/07/16
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, Chad Brown, 2010/07/16
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, Óscar Fuentes, 2010/07/16
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas,
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- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, Andreas Schwab, 2010/07/17
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/07/17
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, Andreas Schwab, 2010/07/17
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/07/17
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, Óscar Fuentes, 2010/07/17
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/07/17
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, Óscar Fuentes, 2010/07/17
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/07/17
- Re: Emacs and Gnome Canvas, Óscar Fuentes, 2010/07/17
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