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Re: Emacs learning curve


From: Ivan Kanis
Subject: Re: Emacs learning curve
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:08:51 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux)


Miles Bader <address@hidden> wrote:

> Ivan Kanis <address@hidden> writes:
>> I side with Tom, I wouldn't mind adding one line to my .emacs in favor
>> of easing new users experience.
>
> It isn't that simple.  You can't just move some bindings around without
> affecting other bindings, and there are _lots of bindings_ in Emacs,
> which are not all defined in one place, or even in one code-base.

I didn't say it was simple.

> You can see the problem in the existing cua-mode:  even though it only
> tries to offer a very few CUA bindings, it has to resort to awful dodgy
> hacks to do so, to avoid (or at least try to avoid) stepping on other
> bindings.

I took a look at CUA mode and it think it is dealing with the problem
elegantly. It supports C-x and C-c only if there is a transient mark.
C-z, C-v do what the user expects.

I think turning on CUA mode by default would help first time users. If
there's a one line of lisp to turn it off and have the old behavior I
don't mind. I don't think veteran emacs user would mind either.

I agree Tom with the concern that new users are turned off with weird
key binding.

An so that's my bit to the bike shed.

> Omochiroi!

BTW if it's Japanese it's spelled omoshiroi.

Take care,
-- 
Ivan Kanis
http://kanis.fr

It's not what we have in our life, but who we have in our life,
that counts.
    -- J.M. Laurence



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